Working on the Rise

[Boomers2012]

Ben,

Send me a video from the side.
Look up ulnar deviation on google. Think of how she can apply this articulation violently... to work the index finger down the ball... resulting in the appearance of a snap up after release.
Perform that movement with the hand inside the ball, with a widened 2-seam grip (see pauly pics).

Mike

Thanks Java. I sent a vid from the side. Ulnar deviation makes sense and will try to explain it to DD. I tried to find the "Pauly pics" but didnt have any luck. Perhaps someone could direct me to them. Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you.

 

[shaker1]

Check out the way Cats hand finishes this rise http://i43.tinypic.com/2d0fgc5.gif

 

[JJsqueeze]

Did anyone else look up ulnar deviation and see those gruesome pics of disfigured hands? Apparently it is a medical term too.

 

[shaker1]

Definitely not what I was expecting to see

 

[javasource]

Did anyone else look up ulnar deviation and see those gruesome pics of disfigured hands? Apparently it is a medical term too.

As in the articulation. Ulnar flexion. The new age wrist snap...

 

[Rick Pauly]

Thanks Java. I sent a vid from the side. Ulnar deviation makes sense and will try to explain it to DD. I tried to find the "Pauly pics" but didnt have any luck. Perhaps someone could direct me to them. Thanks again and look forward to hearing from you.

I think these may be the riseball grip pics you are looking for. There are many variations of the riseball grip.....the important thing in a grip is that it promotes the spin axis needed.

 

[JJsqueeze]

As in the articulation. Ulnar flexion. The new age wrist snap...

Ha...I added "movement" to the search immediately after I endured the visual barrage and it pulled up a whole different set of images...side to side wrist snap like you said. my daughter was very relieved when I put the pliers away.

 

[NVfishing]

How is the work progressing? We are starting ourselves.

[video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-upload_owner&v=D6fC4fyoeRY[/video]

 

[Mark H]

Some good posts. Two things to offer. If your current grip isn't getting you backspin, you could try the standard baseball curve spin grip. Secondly, it's more important to have the axis moving perpendicular to flight path than it is to have perfect 6-12 backspin. If your kid can throw half backspin half curve spin (not bullet)/7:30-1:30 spin that is also very effective. Think in terms of moving the ball directly away from the swing plane. Up and out of the top of the zone, yes that would be 6-12 spin. Lower in the zone 7:30-1:30 spin would be moving directly away from the swing plane.

I would add, don't just throw it out of the top of the zone. Throw it to the low corners as well.

 

[NVfishing]

DD has had a few in practice that look awesome. They have a definite curve up and away. Still working on release point. Sometimes it's to far forward causing counter clockwise bullet spin. Those just keep climbing way out of the zone. When they are 5-11 the tape makes a tight dot on the ball towards the 10oclock position.