Leaving the base early

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The offended team is not making a choice of whether the rule got broken or not, but if they want the penalty to be applied. There are 2 examples of this is NCAA softball, catcher's obstruction and leaving the base early. However, this is not unique in the world of sports, in football for instance a team nearly always has the choice to decline a penalty. The logic behind this is to prevent a team from gaining an advantage by breaking a rule and having a penalty enforced that would be a more favorable result than the result of the play.
 

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The offended team is not making a choice of whether the rule got broken or not, but if they want the penalty to be applied.
Understand they don't get to decide if the rule was broken. However they do get a choice.
Of How and what will happen on the field.

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I would rather the BU reprioritize their duties. Leaving early is more important than watching for checked swings, IMO.

Also, if there is only one ump and he looks up after digesting the pitch and the runner is over 2/3 the way to 2nd base, he could make the assumption that the runner left early.
 
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I would rather the BU reprioritize their duties. Leaving early is more important than watching for checked swings, IMO.

Also, if there is only one ump and he looks up after digesting the pitch and the runner is over 2/3 the way to 2nd base, he could make the assumption that the runner left early.
Sometimes it’s easy to tell. Catcher catches cleanly, perfect throwdown 2 feet above the bag. Clean catch by fielder. And yet the runner’s already popped up and standing on the bag.
 
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The offended team is not making a choice of whether the rule got broken or not, but if they want the penalty to be applied. There are 2 examples of this is NCAA softball, catcher's obstruction and leaving the base early. However, this is not unique in the world of sports, in football for instance a team nearly always has the choice to decline a penalty. The logic behind this is to prevent a team from gaining an advantage by breaking a rule and having a penalty enforced that would be a more favorable result than the result of the play.

Soccer has Advantage. The ref can acknowledge the foul but allow play to continue if he deems it is advantageous to the fouled team to do so.


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I would rather the BU reprioritize their duties. Leaving early is more important than watching for checked swings, IMO.

Also, if there is only one ump and he looks up after digesting the pitch and the runner is over 2/3 the way to 2nd base, he could make the assumption that the runner left early.

Sometimes it’s easy to tell. Catcher catches cleanly, perfect throwdown 2 feet above the bag. Clean catch by fielder. And yet the runner’s already popped up and standing on the bag.
Assuming something woud happen a certain way isnt the correct way to officiate.
 
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do you really want us umpires assuming what happened on the field? Hrmm, C is holding the ball directly in the middle of her body, I didnt see the pitch but I can assume it was a strike down the middle.....
 
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Assuming something woud happen a certain way isnt the correct way to officiate.
i didn’t say to call anyone out based on an assumption. save your quotes for the other poster. however, it’s a big clue if the umpire is paying attention for the next time. most offending teams keep doing it until it’s called, which is sometimes never.
 
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do you really want us umpires assuming what happened on the field? Hrmm, C is holding the ball directly in the middle of her body, I didnt see the pitch but I can assume it was a strike down the middle.....
There are plenty of times umpires make assumptions. They assume balls and strikes every game. Unless you think umpires never miss a call, there is assumption.
On infield fly rule they make an assumption what the fielder's capabilities are whether they can reach it or not. Unless you think umpires know every player skill set, there is assumption.
If the infeld fly rule had a designated line around the infield there would be no need to assume.
 
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There are plenty of times umpires make assumptions. They assume balls and strikes every game. Unless you think umpires never miss a call, there is assumption.
On infield fly rule they make an assumption what the fielder's capabilities are whether they can reach it or not. Unless you think umpires know every player skill set, there is assumption.
If the infeld fly rule had a designated line around the infield there would be no need to assume.
There's a huge difference between judgement and assumptions.

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