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Fielders choice or hit?
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This is a team sport. Swapping runners doesn't help the team, so why should it help your stats
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An exception would be if a BR is thrown out when there’s no force. Ie trying to score from second and CF guns her down.
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Would the losing footing make it an error?
No errors are misplays only. Mental errors are not errors. 6 gets a routine, pops her glove a few time, throws to first and is safe. Its a hit. 6 decided to not throw the ball. Not an error. 6 fields the ball clean and slips not an error
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Ball hit to 6 and during the course of throwing loses their footing and sails first. The runner advances to second thats a hit and an error on the thriw
That doesn't matter. The fielder still has to throw the ball. She fields it cleanly, has time, slips and then throws late allowing the batter to be safe at 1B. Thats a hit. If she slips and the ball is overthrown and she goes to second its a hit + error on the throw because the runner advanced
A fielder's choice is not dependent on whether the preceding runner attempt resulted in an out or not, but on where the throw goes.
I am torn. Do I think honestly it was a hit? No! I would just put it down as an FC (failed) without a hit.
No out was recorded. It was really rather routine. In any out situation you would want to make the short throw if possible even with 2 outs (I don't know the out situation), but with less than 2 outs you would definitely want the lead runner!
The 2B, as RADcatcher said was really the one at fault. Perhaps because she has learned only to push-back from 2B instead of learning an alternative cross-over. The SS didn't make a disastrous play or an error. She lost her balance because she got caught between fielding it in front of her, and doing a backhand. That may have happened because mid play she decided that 2B was her best option. Don't know. But she would have gotten an out at 2B if the 2B had done her job. Have you ever seen Andrelton Simmons make a similar play; Javy Baez? Yes! I think the SS might have been able to get up and throw to 1B and get an out, but it wasn't the sensible throw. The throw to 2B was about as perfect as you would expect. It was really a coverage issue. How do you give the 2B an error on coverage? Do you give a catcher an error on a weak throw on a steal play?
I am torn. Do I think honestly it was a hit? No! I would just put it down as an FC (failed) without a hit.
No out was recorded. It was really rather routine. In any out situation you would want to make the short throw if possible even with 2 outs (I don't know the out situation), but with less than 2 outs you would definitely want the lead runner!
The 2B, as RADcatcher said was really the one at fault. Perhaps because she has learned only to push-back from 2B instead of learning an alternative cross-over. The SS didn't make a disastrous play or an error. She lost her balance because she got caught between fielding it in front of her, and doing a backhand. That may have happened because mid play she decided that 2B was her best option. Don't know. But she would have gotten an out at 2B if the 2B had done her job. Have you ever seen Andrelton Simmons make a similar play; Javy Baez? Yes! I think the SS might have been able to get up and throw to 1B and get an out, but it wasn't the sensible throw. The throw to 2B was about as perfect as you would expect. It was really a coverage issue. How do you give the 2B an error on coverage? Do you give a catcher an error on a weak throw on a steal play?
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An FC is NOT determined by whether there is an out, nor if it was a smart play. Only by an attempt on a preceding runner.
