Teaching the high level pattern

[Work=wins]

TDS,

Can you show yourself or a student achieving FYB when swinging?

I think WW showed a student shifting and then swinging. She completed the shift and then swung. You could see the delay clearly.

Wondering if you have the same problem.

We know what Judge is doing swinging the foot down. His own comments and the way he was hitting the ball after learning it was why does this work?

With the actual HOF pattern, there is a shift of pressure, it MUST happen. It’s the only way to create speed towards the ball. You can’t do it any other way. You can say whatever you like but as your king says ‘video doesn’t lie’. AJ has this trait now, which is leading to his best season.

How about you explain/show how to get to this infamous 1 legged position without shifting anything? You cannot bc as I stated earlier the only way to create horizontal force(rotation) which makes more than 3/4 of the speed in a swing is by changing the pressure dispersal during the stride/forward move. But please try.

Please don’t show the 1 legged golfer. His task is much different.

The ‘pulling back leg’ (actually resisting back leg) as you guys say is this producer of speed in the HLP. It lets the horizontal force( (speed) work. This makes the front leg when planted, resist which aids turning of the pelvis. TM has finally realized this!

If you want to say the tilt back drills help stay back and this helps arrest things? Ok. But stop saying it’s 1 legged bc it’s not. The drill might promote a light front foot and that’s ok. Exaggerations are fine. But the real is much different. As I recall from the ‘Haley’ thread she struggled until she found her front foot. You have to hit from 2 legs. It’s the only way to create good speed. Personally I think TM uses this a ploy to suck folks in.

Where is AJ 1 legged? During the negative move? This pattern looks eerily similar to what I’ve preached here before.

 

[_MIA_]

Anybody have a good side by side comparison of Judge from last year and this year? Or was there already one posted in this thread?

Not saying stuff hasn’t changed but sometimes a hitter just gets on a heater that ends up lasting a whole year..(especially when it is a contract year )

 

[Cannonball]

What minor league stats did you look at? Judge is a great, big athlete. He was average at best in college and minors. More power in the minors.

Shawn, actually, I didn't check out specific stats. I took an educated guess that the Yankees didn't call up someone who was a failure. Using common sense, I deduced that he was pretty successful.

 

[Work=wins]

here’s a old and a new. A few things that stick out to me. Back leg is more of a post than a ‘spiral’, the hips getting forward much earlier and the hands loading later in the new swing. Less tilt also. Seems to be taking advantage of horizontal/angular(rotation)velocities more so than before where he was more vertical/linear. Which was more dependent on TTB for speed.





Edit: there’s obvious better segmentation in the newer swing as well. No ABAF.

Double edit: notice the early disconnection from the middle w the older swing

 

[Shawn]

Shawn, actually, I didn't check out specific stats. I took an educated guess that the Yankees didn't call up someone who was a failure. Using common sense, I deduced that he was pretty successful.

He was good in the minors, not great.

 

[Rolling Hard]

here’s a old and a new. A few things that stick out to me. Back leg is more of a post than a ‘spiral’, the hips getting forward much earlier and the hands loading later in the new swing. Less tilt also. Seems to be taking advantage of horizontal/angular(rotation)velocities more so than before where he was more vertical/linear. Which was more dependent on TTB for speed.

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Edit: there’s obvious better segmentation in the newer swing as well. No ABAF.

Double edit: notice the early disconnection from the middle w the older swing

Not sure what that means but his new swing is much more compact and connected. In his newer swing his head moves/sways back about 8 inches and returns to where it started at contact. In his old swing his head doesn't move as much but it seems like the emphasis was on staying back leading to over tilt. It appears to me allowing the little sway has freed up a more natural swing. If he kept both hands on the bat he would look like Trout.

 

[_MIA_]

He figured out how to use a forward move to create stretch..

 

[Shawn]

I think I know what Judge is taught. I have watched many of his practice swings while working on instructions.

 

[Mike-Coach-Q]

With the actual HOF pattern, there is a shift of pressure, it MUST happen. It’s the only way to create speed towards the ball. You can’t do it any other way. You can say whatever you like but as your king says ‘video doesn’t lie’. AJ has this trait now, which is leading to his best season.

How about you explain/show how to get to this infamous 1 legged position without shifting anything? You cannot bc as I stated earlier the only way to create horizontal force(rotation) which makes more than 3/4 of the speed in a swing is by changing the pressure dispersal during the stride/forward move. But please try.

Please don’t show the 1 legged golfer. His task is much different.

The ‘pulling back leg’ (actually resisting back leg) as you guys say is this producer of speed in the HLP. It lets the horizontal force( (speed) work. This makes the front leg when planted, resist which aids turning of the pelvis. TM has finally realized this!

If you want to say the tilt back drills help stay back and this helps arrest things? Ok. But stop saying it’s 1 legged bc it’s not. The drill might promote a light front foot and that’s ok. Exaggerations are fine. But the real is much different. As I recall from the ‘Haley’ thread she struggled until she found her front foot. You have to hit from 2 legs. It’s the only way to create good speed. Personally I think TM uses this a ploy to suck folks in.

Where is AJ 1 legged? During the negative move? This pattern looks eerily similar to what I’ve preached here before.

Here's my disclaimer, I don't try and pretend to be more than a HS coach trying to help a middle of the Division program with great kids but overall average athletes get better. We have a couple Div. 1 players sprinkled in that makes it all interesting. Out of necessity and frustration, I started working with the bottom 1-2 kids, weakest links. As their success showed , I got better and more serious athletes ( Maddie& Haley) that also improved.

When learning HLP , I've made lots of mistakes along the way partially because language has multiple meanings, the Eskimo's have 50 different ways to describe snow. I did this not as an expert but to help others clear up some of those different meanings that caused me so much trouble.

W has no interest in the explanation of any of this and can probably break it down better than I can but he uses the same things that slowed the learning process for me and my students and makes a great point. So, if anyone really wants an explanation or is having trouble understanding some of the meanings of these patterns let me know.

I want to officially welcome out newest HLP Guru or should we say the original
W.....
Where is AJ 1 legged? During the negative move? This pattern looks eerily similar to what I’ve preached here before.

Don't be shy , If you get stuck! you can always PM me. I hope your not just jumping on the AJ bandwagon for his amazing yr.
Imagine how much better AJ could do without a fraud hitting coach and his flawed teaching principals.

 

[Work=wins]

Not sure what that means but his new swing is much more compact and connected. In his newer swing his head moves/sways back about 8 inches and returns to where it started at contact. In his old swing his head doesn't move as much but it seems like the emphasis was on staying back leading to over tilt. It appears to me allowing the little sway has freed up a more natural swing. If he kept both hands on the bat he would look like Trout.

Just better use of the individual body parts against each other to produce rotation. It starts w the bb staying back and connected w the hands while the hips get forward. It’s really getting that upper body behind the hips so you can separate. It’s better bc he leverages the hips earlier. Before not so much.