Rules for passing a runner

[quincy]

I read that a few times earlier and I don’t think it applies to the above play. Hopefully I am allowed to quote it on here:

A runner shall not run bases in reverse order to confuse the fielders nor to make a travesty of the game.

As always they are a clear as mud to me.

 

[smddad]

I read that a few times earlier and I don’t think it applies to the above play. Hopefully I am allowed to quote it on here:

A runner shall not run bases in reverse order to confuse the fielders nor to make a travesty of the game.

As always they are a clear as mud to me.

The only time to legitimately run them in reverse order is to hit a missed bag.

 

[BretMan]

Note that the rules says a runner is out for running bases in reverse order IF it is a tactic designed to confuse the fielders or make a travesty of the game.

Do you think that this runner headed back toward second base as part of some intentional plan to confuse the defense and gain some sort of an advantage? A runner who is herself confused and retreats is not a rule violation.

Comp gave the correct answer. When the runners passed, the trail runner is out. When the other runner was tagged, she was out.

 

[quincy]

I obviously trust both you guys but cannot find the dang thing in the ASA rule book.

 

[SoCal_Dad]

I obviously trust both you guys but cannot find the dang thing in the ASA rule book.

My bad - I didn't realize you were looking for the runner passing another runner rule...

 

[quincy]

That is the rule I quoted and Bretman agreed did not apply to this play.

 

[Comp]

Asa 8-7-d.

 

[JAD]

Last year My DD and I went to watch a D1 softball game. One inning bases were loaded, batter hits a lazy pop fly to deep left field. All the base runners go back to their bag to tag up. Wind keeps carrying the ball and it clears the fence by 2". While they were watch the lazy pop fly the batter rounded 1st base and passed the runner on 1st. The umpire called the batter out and what should have been a grand slam became a 3 run homer.

What would have been really interesting would have been if there were two outs in the inning when this happened. Would the runs still have scored? Help us out Comp!!!

 

[Greenmonsters]

Last year My DD and I went to watch a D1 softball game. One inning bases were loaded, batter hits a lazy pop fly to deep left field. All the base runners go back to their bag to tag up. Wind keeps carrying the ball and it clears the fence by 2". While they were watch the lazy pop fly the batter rounded 1st base and passed the runner on 1st. The umpire called the batter out and what should have been a grand slam became a 3 run homer.

What would have been really interesting would have been if there were two outs in the inning when this happened. Would the runs still have scored? Help us out Comp!!!

Realistically with 2 outs they wouldn't have been tagging up. But let's say they all forgot the number of outs, the third out of the inning would occur as soon as any runner passed the preceding runner and no runs scoring after that occurrence would count and you would potentially have an inning-ending 0 RBI grandslam to cry about for a long time.

 

[quincy]

thank you Comp.