barrel/hand pivot point, a.k.a TTB

[Bobby Shirer]

Don't be fooled by the Yelich still. He still has 2 ft of bat travel before contact. In this space he is going to get palm up. If you saw the video and not a still you would see him getting to palm up. Josh is not palm up at contact. That is the difference.

But Josh tries/preaches to get to palm up early even though he may not always get there.

 

[Bobby Shirer]

Don't be fooled by the Yelich still. He still has 2 ft of bat travel before contact. In this space he is going to get palm up. If you saw the video and not a still you would see him getting to palm up. Josh is not palm up at contact. That is the difference.

 

[james27503]

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Same clip. Top hand planed, palm up. Make sure you are looking at contact.

 

[Bobby Shirer]

Same clip. Top hand planed, palm up. Make sure you are looking at contact.

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So he does get to palm up?

 

[james27503]

So he does get to palm up?

Yes

 

[julray]

James, unlike me you have a talent for explaining things coherently using easy to understand terms. I agree with you, you don't know until you really think about what the pros are saying with all the other components in place. It's true what they demo can be misleading, but it's also the truth which IMO can only be demoed by isolating what the hands actually do.

By any chance do have the video where you display down to with no posture?

 

[TDS]

James, unlike me you have a talent for explaining things coherently using easy to understand terms. I agree with you, you don't know until you really think about what the pros are saying with all the other components in place. It's true what they demo can be misleading, but it's also the truth which IMO can only be demoed by isolating what the hands actually do.

By any chance do have the video where you display down to with no posture?

I think this was his attempt with no posture.. The hand/arm action looked correct.

He was swinging within the s-plane fine but lacking posture.. Looks like he tried to stand up out of his posture and then swing down.

 

[julray]

I think this was his attempt with no posture.. The hand/arm action looked correct.

@Shawn
Is this how you see a swing that is "too short, too steep"?

@Bobby Shirer
Is this an example of a chop chop swing you keep referring to?

 

[_MIA_]

I think this was his attempt with no posture.. The hand/arm action looked correct.

He was swinging within the s-plane fine but lacking posture.. Looks like he tried to stand up out of his posture and then swing down.

Is one of the swings mirrored or does he switch hit or am I seeing things?

 

[Bonesaw]

Is one of the swings mirrored or does he switch hit or am I seeing things?

I didn't realize that James posted that lefty swing! He was anti-down/down to skeptic at that point?

If so that is awesome. I've had similar results(albeit just off a tee no machine here).