Noise Makers in dugout

[yfz450bb7]

Ok I had a situation where we played a team that was using a noise maker in the dugout while we were playing defense. It was a clapper like devise that basically was like slapping 2 spoons together. It started out as one of the parents was using it in the stands then the players got ahold of it and was using it in the dugout while our pitcher was pitching. I figured it was fine out in the stands but didn't know if it was ok in the dugout................After the game my SS told me she asked the ump if that was legal and he told her NO but didn't do anything about it.

 

[MTR]

Ok I had a situation where we played a team that was using a noise maker in the dugout while we were playing defense. It was a clapper like devise that basically was like slapping 2 spoons together. It started out as one of the parents was using it in the stands then the players got ahold of it and was using it in the dugout while our pitcher was pitching. I figured it was fine out in the stands but didn't know if it was ok in the dugout................After the game my SS told me she asked the ump if that was legal and he told her NO but didn't do anything about it.

Speaking ASA

The use of artificial noisemakers are considered unsportsmanlike, but have no idea how that thought can be supported. All the yelling and screaming ESPECIALLY FROM THE PLAYERS IN THE DUGOUT and their chants, how in the world can a clapping noise be anymore distracting?

 

[chinamigarden]

Every team I have seen has 10-13 noise makers in the dugout. Not sure how, outside of an air horn, how it would make much of a difference.

We played a team 4 times last year (2 times during our league, 1 time in the league tourney and once at a tournament that we both just happened to be at) the players would line the fence and yell just as the opposing pitcher was releasing. My DD pitched 3 of those game and won them all. At the end of the league tourney, which was the end of our season. Their coach approached my daughter to ask her if she would go to 2 tournaments with them. My girl said no thanks, I don't like how your team screams at the other team's pitchers and I wouldn't want to be associated with that. She pulled that off with a smile and a polite tone of voice.

 

[SoCalSoftballdad]

Whatever happened to just positive cheering/chanting for your OWN team? There really is no need for artificial noise devices anywhere near a dugout and certainly nothing negative should be directed towards the other team, ever. Let's bring some respect and dignity back to the game and treat your fellow competitors like you would like to be treated.

I really like what one opposing team did one the game. After all of their players congratulated us in the circle, they came over to the entrance to our dugout and created a "bridge" with their arms so our players could walk under it as we went back to our dugout. I kept thinking to myself, what a first-class organization they are.

 

[quincy]

Last year an opposing Manager asked the umpire to have our Team stop using artificial noisemakers in the dugout, argument ensued.

After the game our Manager and I had a couple discussions about this event and never came to an agreement. I think the umpire should have given our Team a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct, our Manager stated it was not in the rules so we could do what we wanted. Nothing I could find in the rules specifically addresses the use of artificial noisemakers except, until I think recently, tournament play.

Like the Supreme Court opinion: “I CAN'T DEFINE PORN, BUT I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT”, the umpire(s) have a lot of discretion what is disrupting the game and what is unsportsmanlike conduct.

We have a new local rule this year, No artificial noisemakers anywhere, even in the stands.

I personally like the rule a lot, it resolves any confusion. Reading various local rules across the country, a lot have enacted a simular rule.

 

[chinamigarden]

Whatever happened to just positive cheering/chanting for your OWN team? There really is no need for artificial noise devices anywhere near a dugout and certainly nothing negative should be directed towards the other team, ever. Let's bring some respect and dignity back to the game and treat your fellow competitors like you would like to be treated.

I really like what one opposing team did one the game. After all of their players congratulated us in the circle, they came over to the entrance to our dugout and created a "bridge" with their arms so our players could walk under it as we went back to our dugout. I kept thinking to myself, what a first-class organization they are.

My daughter hates that bridge thing, she feels its condescending.

 

[MTR]

Last year an opposing Manager asked the umpire to have our Team stop using artificial noisemakers in the dugout, argument ensued.

After the game our Manager and I had a couple discussions about this event and never came to an agreement. I think the umpire should have given our Team a warning for unsportsmanlike conduct, our Manager stated it was not in the rules so we could do what we wanted. Nothing I could find in the rules specifically addresses the use of artificial noisemakers except, until I think recently, tournament play.

Like the Supreme Court opinion: “I CAN'T DEFINE PORN, BUT I KNOW IT WHEN I SEE IT”, the umpire(s) have a lot of discretion what is disrupting the game and what is unsportsmanlike conduct.

Wasn't that Oliver Wendell Holmes? BTW, it is a load of crap.

We have a new local rule this year, No artificial noisemakers anywhere, even in the stands.

I personally like the rule a lot, it resolves any confusion. Reading various local rules across the country, a lot have enacted a simular rule.

Must be local rule.

 

[quincy]

BTW, it is a load of crap.

If you can define unsportsmanlike conduct in softball, without your personal opinion being involved, I will agree with you. Specific stated rules only.

 

[alabama_lowlife]

In response to yelling when the pitcher throws, we had a situation like that with a particular city that we played against a few years ago. This was in a Dixie League game so I referenced this rule to get the umpire to make them stop. I'm all for the girls cheering, i've grown to find it really amusing and i think it adds to my enjoyment whether i'm watching or coaching, however, there is no cause for yelling right when the pitcher releases the ball to try to mess her up. I'm not sure if such a rule exists in the other sanctioning bodies, but this particular rule is in the chapter on pitching.

6:06 (E) — NO PLAYER, MANAGER, OR COACH SHALL CALL TIME, EMPLOY
ANY OTHER WORD OR PHRASE, OR COMMIT ANY ACT WHILE THE
BALL IS ALIVE AND IN PLAY FOR THE OBVIOUS PURPOSE OF TRYING
TO MAKE THE PITCHER COMMIT AN ILLEGAL PITCH. NOTE: “No pitch”
shall be declared, and a warning issued to the offending team. A repeat of this type
act by any member of the team warned shall result in the offender being removed
from the game.

 

[MTR]

If you can define unsportsmanlike conduct in softball, without your personal opinion being involved, I will agree with you. Specific stated rules only.

Agree. Unfortunately, the rules could never keep up with those always looking for anything to get a perceived advantage and sometimes, it comes down to judgement. Which why the umpire should offer a warning if s/he sees something developing unless it is that egregeous, the umpire has to take immediate action.