Free Hands

[Work=wins]

I was agreeing with you in my statement that the swing you showed of your hitter did not have a problem. I also agree on an outside pitch what you describe will happen. All i was mentioning about Bobby was his favoring a longer front arm and longer radius swing. I am not saying they are the same swings, probably should not have made that comparison. My apologies.

no worries. did I come off like I was scolding you? That was not my intent. Apologies as well.

 

[fanboi22]

arm driven is usually bc the hitter has leaked the frontside open. That’s drag. Creating stretch in both directions is key. That’s how depth is created. The ‘free’ hands will then be able to adjust. It’s a fine and delicate balance. Swaying or staying back will need to be addressed before free hands can be installed.

I really like this topic. I am just trying to make sure i understand your terms. the leaking frontside i think i agree with, but is it because the swing starts before it should, or that the hands are starting too late?

 

[fanboi22]

no worries. did I come off like I was scolding you? That was not my intent. Apologies as well.

No no no, not at all. Actually enjoying the discussion. One question i have for you on your hitters before and after. I think i see the stretch you say she is creating, but correct me if i am wrong, in the after, she starts with a handset closer to the middle of her body (more to the front maybe a better way to say it frontal plane wise), which then 'stretches' back until 'go'. Otherwise i dont see many other significant changes. If you can help me see what i am missing. Not saying it isn't a better swing, but just not sure how to interpret.

 

[TDS]

Free hands occurs after the hand pump (UFA) The pump acts as a hand body sync.. Once the pump is released the body is seeking a position of leverage while the hands are free/floating. Many attempt to assign the hands/arms a position when they should be free while the body seeks leverage.

 

[clemenslee1]

while I understand that once a players UFA's is start and the body along with the hands naturally seek a position of leverage, my view of free hands, was having to do with launch and the hands being able to freely get through the zone.

 

[TDS]

while I understand that once a players UFA's is start and the body along with the hands naturally seek a position of leverage, my view of free hands, was having to do with launch and the hands being able to freely get through the zone.

Free hands IMO is allowing them free to seek a hand pivot while getting leveraged.. In the miggy clip you can see he was late getting to his leveraged position which forces his free hands to make the hand pivot adjustment (pulling them inside).

 

[clemenslee1]

Free hands IMO is allowing them free to seek a hand pivot while getting leveraged.. In the miggy clip you can see he was late getting to his leveraged position which forces his free hands to make the hand pivot adjustment (pulling them inside).

Right he adjusted, and pulled them inside, but could that be a result of knowing subconsciously that he needs to get the barrel to the ball now?

 

[TDS]

Right he adjusted, and pulled them inside, but could that be a result of knowing subconsciously that he needs to get the barrel to the ball now?

Absolutely !! It needs to be a reaction which is hard to do if they are assigned a universal hand pivot.

 

[Work=wins]

I really like this topic. I am just trying to make sure i understand your terms. the leaking frontside i think i agree with, but is it because the swing starts before it should, or that the hands are starting too late?

good observations. it could be one or the other. The sequence starts w a balanced position throughout. I always start w gather and make sure there isn’t a sway or a push w the back leg. I think doing that portion slowly and deliberately is key. Much like a golf backswing.


the weighting of the back leg needs to be felt usually initiated w the hands. A gather down or back is how I create the gather.

 

[Work=wins]

No no no, not at all. Actually enjoying the discussion. One question i have for you on your hitters before and after. I think i see the stretch you say she is creating, but correct me if i am wrong, in the after, she starts with a handset closer to the middle of her body (more to the front maybe a better way to say it frontal plane wise), which then 'stretches' back until 'go'. Otherwise i dont see many other significant changes. If you can help me see what i am missing. Not saying it isn't a
better swing, but just not sure how to interpret.

good eyes. I wanted her to feel the ‘free’ hands aspect against a good stable back leg. As well as get the core stretch. I started it as a drill bc of her slight ‘sway’(she timed it well but couldn’t adjust). Then after drill work she was loading that way against front toss.

Some waggle the bat, others pump and tip, some keep them still and walk away. If your gonna go ‘back‘ w them i would advise to start them forward.

after every movement change I always ask for feedback from the hitter and get my own feedback through firm front toss from 15ft away. As well as video.