How to Prevent the Extra Base?

[daywalkerdad]

Do not walk the batter lol.
Work on skills for the future. How does a 16u team defend this.

 

[quincy]

In your case I would have 3 things happen.

1) Get a fielder on 2nd. Your choice whether it is the SS or 2nd. You do not want a footrace to 2nd base. This also allows P an easier play as she doesn't need to be worried about the moving parts.
2) If at all possible the P should stay in the circle.
3) C throws the ball to P, C has a lot of time so she should take her time.

Once those 3 pieces are in place it is in the P's hand to make a decision.

This is about the look back rule. It does not take effect until batter-runner touchs 1st base. You might be lucky getting the runner on 3rd or 1st.

 

[GunnerShotgun]

Any other options to prevent the extra base? It's a real thorn in my side.

Get a rule change or have a gentleman's agreement between coaches BEFORE the game starts (during the home plate coaches meeting).

I usually say, "We aren't taking two bases on a walk with a runner on third. We want to see "softball plays."

Rarely does the coach not reciprocate and either way, it only would affect the outcome in one scenario (two even teams in a close game) if the coach wants to be difficult.

 

[Comp]

Do you also have five run rule per inning?

Throw the ball to First immediately.

If a coach knows what they are doing, throwing the ball to first wont stop the runner from taking 2nd. All you have to do is run straight through first base and make a wide looping arc to 2nd. The base runner is not liable to be put out until they actually make a move toward 2nd.

 

[RADcatcher]

If a coach knows what they are doing, throwing the ball to first wont stop the runner from taking 2nd. All you have to do is run straight through first base and make a wide looping arc to 2nd. The base runner is not liable to be put out until they actually make a move toward 2nd.

Haaahaaa
If the ball is there an out can be made. The ball can be there much before the runner.
After all the first baseman is not locked to staying on first base.


Really there's the next issue of having a runner on first (if they're held there) with runners now on first and third is that
High probability on the next pitch the runner's going to take off to second base anyway so there's the long throw or whatever needs to happen with that

Seriously if accurate throws can't be made in a game that has restrictions of when players can score and run rule limitations. Go for the appropriate plays and see if it works. At least the players will be trained to get the ball to second if they need to or the ball to first if they want to.
The runner on 3rd can't score in this situation anyway.

 

[daywalkerdad]

Haaahaaa
If the ball is there an out can be made. The ball can be there much before the runner.
After all the first baseman is not locked to staying on first base.


Really there's the next issue of having a runner on first (if they're held there) with runners now on first and third is that
High probability on the next pitch the runner's going to take off to second base anyway so there's the long throw or whatever needs to happen with that

Seriously if accurate throws can't be made in a game that has restrictions of when players can score and run rule limitations. Go for the appropriate plays and see if it works. At least the players will be trained to get the ball to second if they need to or the ball to first if they want to.
The runner on 3rd can't score in this situation anyway.

Great point about stealing 2nd on next pitch.
I would go for the out, and say thank you since the runner cannot go home and pitcher to 2nd is a higher probability than catcher throwing down on next pitch.

 

[Comp]

Haaahaaa
If the ball is there an out can be made. The ball can be there much before the runner.
After all the first baseman is not locked to staying on first base.


Really there's the next issue of having a runner on first (if they're held there) with runners now on first and third is that
High probability on the next pitch the runner's going to take off to second base anyway so there's the long throw or whatever needs to happen with that

Seriously if accurate throws can't be made in a game that has restrictions of when players can score and run rule limitations. Go for the appropriate plays and see if it works. At least the players will be trained to get the ball to second if they need to or the ball to first if they want to.
The runner on 3rd can't score in this situation anyway.

HAAAA what? Is your F3 going to chase the runner down the first baseline past first base and tag them when they make a move to 2nd? The batter/runner is legally able to overrun 1st base without liability to be put out, even on a walk. Until that runner makes an attempt for 2nd F3 cant do anything so unless you chase the runner down the line, no, throwing the ball to first does nothing. And once you get into normal rules where the runner at 3rd can advance, throwing to first never activates the lookback rule, so the runner at 3rd can lead off and hang off the base all they want. Get the ball back to the pitcher as far back in the circle as they can get and then you have a much shorter throw to 2nd once the runner is committed to going.

 

[Lance Steckler]

when the girls get older (and also some stupid rules are removed), that automatic walk go to 2b play really starts to disappear.

 

[RADcatcher]

HAAAA what?

Was laughing at thinking of watching these youngsters running passing first base by 10 ft and taking giant rounding running path to second. Because the first baseman has the ball.

At least for the catcher throwing the ball to First is a closer throw than trying to throw to second. And alleviates two throws that could create more errors,

BONUS They can get the out at first or they can try to get the out at second and either case the runner at third isn't scoring

 

[daywalkerdad]

Plan B,
Throw the ball to first keep runner on first.
Next pitch thrown backwards to short. Tags runner stealing second.
I could find video of the play were pitcher releases half way through windmill to the shortstop to get runner stealing. Still cannot decide if that is bush league or the smartest play ever.