Also the same in all baseball codes, you know, in case Aaron Boone is wondering.
Does run count
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Also the same in all baseball codes, you know, in case Aaron Boone is wondering.
Failing to tag up is a considered a "tag play". If the run scores before the appeal the run counts. Missing a base is considered a force play and the run would not count.
Please cite a rule/sanction reference for the above. I do not know of any ruleset where a missed base becomes a force play. In fact, in most sanctions I am aware of, the runner is ASSUMED to have tagged the base once they pass it and can only be called out on appeal (live or dead ball).
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I was going to offer corrections, but after re-reading it, I think you do understand how it works. Your terminology is off and problematic though.
Failing to to tag up is not a tag play.
You are correct that the run stays on the board if they score before the appeal for leaving early is executed. The terminology you are looking for is a time play.
Missing a base is not a force play. It is still a type of appeal play, however it may or may not be a time play. If the play at that base was a force play, the appeal is treated like a force out because the runner never legally acquired the base. If the play at that base was not a force play, it is treated as a time play.
I would say the run doesn't count. IF the appeal is that the runner on second left early, than it's a double play and run doesn't count. What am I missing? Appealing for review is just verifying that it was a double play which is technically treated like a force out. Even if there wasn't a throw to second on the double up, a runner that leaves early is out immediatly if seen properly, which wouldn't allow time for runner on 3rd to cross before anyway.
Am I missing something here?
Am I missing something here?
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An appeal for a runner leaving early on a caught fly ball is NEVER a force play. The batter-runner is out on the caught fly ball and nobody is forced to advance.
Others have correctly addressed this as a timing play; the appeal must be made before the runner from third scores. Umpires, by rule, do not rule on missed bases and leaving early on a caught fly ball until the defense correctly makes an appeal.
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Interesting, good thing it doesn't come up too much.
It shouldn't come up too often, it's a specific situation if leaving early without tagging, while including a runner scoring, then becoming a 3rd out...Interesting stuff.
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This topic is no longer up for debate. If you thought the run does not score, you are wrong.
