Or just watch the movie All Stars.Interesting, now I'll have to go read the rules. I can't see any way that a batter running to 1B, where she is allowed to be is out because the throw hit her in the helmet.
Or just watch the movie All Stars.Interesting, now I'll have to go read the rules. I can't see any way that a batter running to 1B, where she is allowed to be is out because the throw hit her in the helmet.
A runner is considered outside the running lane if either foot is completely outside the
lane and in contact with the ground."
they are not allowed to be in fair territory, they must be in foul territory by the halfway mark
find me an ump who is going to make that distinction by eye while lso watching the throw (have to make certain it is a decent throw). Also pretty certain if their left foot was in fair, but it comes of fthe ground, then it lands fair again, they are continuously in fair territory.Not quite completely true. Presume a runner is running the last half of the distance to 1B straddling the foul line. By interpretation she is legal/illegal/legal/illegal depending on which foot struck the ground last (i.e. if her right foot was the last to hit the ground when the ball passes/strikes her, she was IN the lane and legal, even if the foot was ON the line and she was technically in fair territory)
find me an ump who is going to make that distinction by eye while lso watching the throw (have to make certain it is a decent throw).
pretty certain if their left foot was in fair, but it comes of fthe ground, then it lands fair again, they are continuously in fair territory.
find me an ump who is going to make that distinction by eye while lso watching the throw (have to make certain it is a decent throw). Also pretty certain if their left foot was in fair, but it comes of fthe ground, then it lands fair again, they are continuously in fair territory.
Good the rulebook defined how to help umpires. But question of the body interfering still questions?Most of the time this is irrelevant because the runner is normally clearly on one side of the line or the other,
but on a few occasions, I have actually had the 'in,out,in,out' steps going in my mind so if the ball did hit her I know which way to call it. I have never made the call because the throw has never hit the BR in this circumstance - but I was ready to do so if it happened.
BTW PU call. BU has the play at 1B.
Good the rulebook defined how to help umpires. But question of the body interfering still questions?
When you say clearly on one side of the line or the other...
*Are you still reffering to their feet? Both being on the same side as eachother?
Or can the runners body alone be enough to make the call regardless of feet?
Cannot say i have ever encountered a batter-running to 1st stratling the line who bunted and got pegged by a throw from me catching who wasnt called out.
must have timed my throw with excellence...pegging runner after their right foot left the ground
so you are saying timing on throw has to catch them with left foot down? if so, absurd interpretation, sorry, parsing it way to fine. and I asm sorry, once the ball hits here, the BR does not freeze so you can see exactly where the foot was, so how do you know. and if you are watching feet, how do you know at what instant the ball hit her?Just pointing out this umpiring thing is not as easy as everyone seems to think it is at times.
Nope, each time the RIGHT foot comes down in the lane, the re-establish themselves as in the lane again.
Can you please (for wonderful discussion clarity )Good point - It is feet. That is the thing that is defining whether they are in or out of the running lane.
Note: I have gone back and corrected my post to reflect that this is related to the running lane and is not a fair/foul thing (which would be determined by ball position at contact)