throwing at runners

[bmakj]

running lane is an area 3 feet wide from the halfway point between HP and 1B to 1B, to the foul side of the 1B/RF foul line. MLB fields actually mark this out with chalk/paint, never seen this at one of DDs (currently 14u) games, not certain about HS or NCAA, have seen a bunch of those, but cannot recall.

 

[EdLovrich]

the BR does not freeze so you can see exactly where the foot was, so how do you know. and if you are watching feet, how do you know at what instant the ball hit her?

Do people REALLY think umpires are that incapable of seeing more than one thing at a time? Or is it something they think about all sports officials? When was the last time someone said a basketball referee couldn't see both the hands and feet of a player to know 1) who touched the ball last and 2) was their foot on the line or not for OB. And if we really can't see more than one thing at a time, how will we EVER call leaving early? The runners foot on the bag and the ball still in the pitchers hand, HORRORS I can't do it, it is just TOOO MUCH visual input!!!!

Sorry for the snark, but some of these posts lately of accusing us of over-parsing rules and using too much verbiage are the CAUSE of that. Use some common sense, just like you want umpires to do when we call the ball game. You know, "Just let them play" and all that.

 

[Long Baller]

Back to the OP...If you can make the out, take the out. A back pic to 1st is NOT conceding third base to the lead runner.

 

[Long Baller]

Do people REALLY think umpires are that incapable of seeing more than one thing at a time? Or is it something they think about all sports officials?

It's so much easier to just blame the umpires when you are wrong yourself.

 

[marriard]

Can you please (for wonderful discussion clarity )
Define what you refer to as
*the running lane.

As it is a different defined area than the foul line.
Thanks

1.2.g. Three foot running lane is a line drawn 3 feet from and parallel to the first base foul line starting halfway between home and first base and extending to first base

 

[Westwind]

Running lane as described above has been marked at high school and college games I have attended

 

[EdLovrich]

Hit or miss at HS fields around here (heck I am lucky to have foul lines extend past the bases, at least there are foul poles), always at college that I have worked/seen

 

[radness]

How does it help or not to have an additional running lane chaulked in foul territory?
Especially if your looking at feet crossing the foul line into fair territory?
As the foul line is the field parimeter side of the lane.

 

[bmakj]

actually blaming NFHS/NCAA really, stupidly written rule (and not all rulesets have that in contact with ground stupid wording, USSSA simply says out of lane, after defining the running lane)

even if left foot is 1 mm off ground, if that foot has just left contact with fair territory, significant portion of the body is still in (above?) fair territory, it does not magically not interfere with throw once foot leaves the ground. think about it, its like the old kids game "Im not touching you" with finger an inch from persons face. technically accurate, but clearly absurd.

is runner in lane or out of it when both feet are off ground (if you slo mo running, most people at some point have both feet off the ground while running)? have to answer that in order for wording about foot contact to even make sense. how would you rule if runner is hit while both feet are out of contact with ground? differently if only one had previously been outside lane, or both?

what if runner is hopping only on right foot right on line, with most of body above fair territory?

 

[bmakj]

How does it help or not to have an additional running lane chaulked in foul territory?

clearly defines it (and it is not additional, it is the running lane they should be in), and also might serve as visual reminder for BR.