Pitching replant (crow hop)

[jackfrost]

Where would you like that foot to be??

I'd like it to be where the rule book says it must be. The USA book is pretty clear, you push from the pitcher's plate and in this picture, she clearly is pushing from somewhere else. For those who think its a weak 2nd push, the book does not differentiate between a strong or weak illegal move.

As far as which umpire is allowed to call it, the answer is any umpire that see's it is required to call it. That being said, it is sometimes hard for the PU to watch the ball coming out of the hand and the feet at the same time, so with 1 umpire, it probably won't be seen or called. That's why between innings when the pitcher is warming up., I usually watch from the sideline and see if there is something out of the ordinary that I should pay attention to during live play. But clearly it is hard for the PU to see subtle illegalities in the pitcher's footwork.

Hope that helps.

 

[The Man In Blue]

Can you share feedback on if there's only one umpire? Thanks

Hmmm thinking probably only half games have two umpires.
Seems Never at Friendly's.

Yes ... do NOT work one umpire games. I'll spare you the rest of my usual rant on that.

 

[radness]

Yes ... do NOT work one umpire games. I'll spare you the rest of my usual rant on that.

Ok... but if you need to rant you know we're here for you at dfp

 

[The Man In Blue]

If the pivot foot comes down and the body's momentum is propelled, it is a push. Whether the muscles in her leg flex or her knee points to Jupiter or whatever folksy way you want to see it ... The pivot foot becomes a fulcrum which allows the pitcher to throw from a position closer to the plate. A literal "push with the muscles" is not necessary for it to increase the pitcher's momentum.

 

[_MIA_]

These threads never fail to disappoint

 

[radness]

These threads never fail to disappoint

Next game I watch going to search for Jupiter to look for that alignment...

 

[_MIA_]

Next game I watch going to search for Jupiter to look for that alignment...View attachment 27031

Lol. Topic provides a little for everybody. People who love to complain about umps. Pitcher's parents who "teach their kid the right way". People who love the rulebook. A literal cornucopia of opportunities..

 

[chinamigarden]

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Her pivot foot clearly on the ground about 3 feet in front of the pitcher's plate. Not legal.

Every picture of any pitcher over 10u at this point in the delivery you will see the back foot in front of the pitchers plate. At this point her front foot is just touching down and based on where her arm is in about 1/10th of a second she is going to be releasing the ball. This is not an illegal pitch based on this photo. Do you have video to show this is a replant with a second push off?

 

[LEsoftballdad]

Every picture of any pitcher over 10u at this point in the delivery you will see the back foot in front of the pitchers plate. At this point her front foot is just touching down and based on where her arm is in about 1/10th of a second she is going to be releasing the ball. This is not an illegal pitch based on this photo. Do you have video to show this is a replant with a second push off?

It is literally the first post of the thread.

 

[LEsoftballdad]

These threads never fail to disappoint

Just imagine how they'll take off after Bahl's first televised game! The thread, Skippy 2.0, was a classic.