Is a missed tag recorded as a hit to the batter?

[honus14]

The ASA rules don't use the term "fielder's choice," but they do have similar definitions under "A BASE HIT shall not be scored:"

A. When a runner is forced out on a batted ball or would have been forced out except for a fielding error.
B. When a player fielding a batted ball retires a preceding runner with ordinary effort.
C. When a fielder fails in an attempt to retire a preceding runner and, in the scorer's judgment, the batter-runner could have been retired at first base.

It's the attempt to retire another runner that makes the "fielder's choice" a "choice." I can't see the OP as anything but a hit or an error.

 

[mgardner]

NCAA: Rule 14

SECTION 7—FIELDER’S CHOICE
A fielder’s choice is credited in the following situations:

14.7.1.4 When a runner is checked and no throw or a
late throw is made, but the runner would have been
out had the initial play gone to first base.

 

[jj2809]

how about if there are runners on 3rd and 2nd with 2 outs. A ground ball hit to first basemen who fielded the ball and tried to make the tag but the runner maneuvered around her and the fielder missed the tag by like an inch. She makes no attempt to throw the ball to home and runner at third scores. Hit? FC? Error? thanks.

 

[CoogansBluff]

how about if there are runners on 3rd and 2nd with 2 outs. A ground ball hit to first basemen who fielded the ball and tried to make the tag but the runner maneuvered around her and the fielder missed the tag by like an inch. She makes no attempt to throw the ball to home and runner at third scores. Hit? FC? Error? thanks.

It's not a FC. It's a hit or error, depending on how 'routine' the scorekeeper considered the tag attempt. Was the runner safe because the runner was faster or more agile than the fielder? That's a hit. If the fielder had a routine tag attempt but somehow blew it, or dropped the ball, then it's an error.

 

[Greenmonsters]

It's not a FC. It's a hit or error, depending on how 'routine' the scorekeeper considered the tag attempt. Was the runner safe because the runner was faster or more agile than the fielder? That's a hit. If the fielder had a routine tag attempt but somehow blew it, or dropped the ball, then it's an error.

Error. Would you rule it a hit if the 1B missed stepping on 1B?

 

[jj2809]

the fielder tried to tag the runner when the runner was right next to her but the runner took a step to the side and missed the tag.

 

[mgardner]

It's not a FC. It's a hit or error, depending on how 'routine' the scorekeeper considered the tag attempt. Was the runner safe because the runner was faster or more agile than the fielder? That's a hit. If the fielder had a routine tag attempt but somehow blew it, or dropped the ball, then it's an error.

Error. Would you rule it a hit if the 1B missed stepping on 1B?

SECTION 21—ERROR

14.21.3 An error shall be charged against any fielder when
she catches a thrown ball or fields a ground ball in time to put
out any runner on a force play and fails to tag the base or the
runner, including a batter-runner on a play at first base.

 

[CoogansBluff]

SECTION 21—ERROR

14.21.3 An error shall be charged against any fielder when
she catches a thrown ball or fields a ground ball in time to put
out any runner on a force play and fails to tag the base or the
runner, including a batter-runner on a play at first base.

No argument there.

Error. Would you rule it a hit if the 1B missed stepping on 1B?

Yes, I would. But the poster merely said that the ball was hit to the first baseman and that an attempt at a tag was made. He didn’t say it was a routine play. (That's probably what he meant, and maybe I shouldn't have over-thought it.) But it's possible that the 1B dove to his right and stopped it, or stopped it in a way that he didn't necessarily have time to put out the runner. If the batter/runner simply outruns the fielder to the bag (or is too fast to be tagged), then it’s a hit.

 

[jj2809]

No argument there.



Yes, I would. But the poster merely said that the ball was hit to the first baseman and that an attempt at a tag was made. He didn’t say it was a routine play. (That's probably what he meant, and maybe I shouldn't have over-thought it.) But it's possible that the 1B dove to his right and stopped it, or stopped it in a way that he didn't necessarily have time to put out the runner. If the batter/runner simply outruns the fielder to the bag (or is too fast to be tagged), then it’s a hit.

sorry i forgot to specify about the play. Yes, it was a routine ground ball straight to the fielder.

 

[CoogansBluff]

sorry i forgot to specify about the play. Yes, it was a routine ground ball straight to the fielder.

Error.

My fault for making your question too hard.