That's the kind of pitching I like. That's "hopefully" where my DD is headed. Nothing I hate more than getting beat by the speed burner who can't move the ball.
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That's the kind of pitching I like. That's "hopefully" where my DD is headed. Nothing I hate more than getting beat by the speed burner who can't move the ball.
Hal, we might just make a good baseball pitcher out of you yet!!
All kidding aside, she was using a handful of pitches. It was really hard to pick up "what" she was throwing because the speed and amount of break varied so much. She worked outside a good bit, throwing a 59-60 cutter, 55-56 slider, 51-52 slurve. ( not sure what we would call them on here ) Then she could bump it up with a 62 FB, or drop it off with a 46 flip change. When you don't have the D1 blazing upper 60's-70 mph arm, this is what you do.
I should have taken some video, but I was in a coma since we could do squat with her in the circle. I'll be watching for her in the state arena next year, she will be a junior.
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Nothing I like better than a smart pitcher.
Greenmonsters
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Hal, we might just make a good baseball pitcher out of you yet!!
All kidding aside, she was using a handful of pitches. It was really hard to pick up "what" she was throwing because the speed and amount of break varied so much. She worked outside a good bit, throwing a 59-60 cutter, 55-56 slider, 51-52 slurve. ( not sure what we would call them on here ) Then she could bump it up with a 62 FB, or drop it off with a 46 flip change. When you don't have the D1 blazing upper 60's-70 mph arm, this is what you do.
I should have taken some video, but I was in a coma since we could do squat with her in the circle. I'll be watching for her in the state arena next year, she will be a junior.
GD - who was calling the game?
Never seen this ump before, probably a new guy who hasn't been influenced yet by the "powers that be".
Greenmonsters
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Never seen this ump before, probably a new guy who hasn't been influenced yet by the "powers that be".
I know that the home plate umpire usually calls balls and strikes and even if you knew his name, it probably wouldn't mean anything to me unless he was picking up a game while on vacation from Connecticut. What I really wanted to know was who was calling the pitches - catcher or bench coach?!
PS - My apologies for not being clearer intially, too many foul tips and/or I'm just rusty and momentarily forgot how to interact effectively with a mound monster.
I was wondering hiw long it would take you to "catch" my response.
no pun intended. Took me a few mins to figure his calls out. The coach was calling the locations of the pitches, but I believe he was letting the pitcher decide on the speed during the off-speed breaking balls. He'd signal for the FB and CU.
Edit: The catcher and pitcher could have a system set up where the catcher is adding the speed ( choice ) after the coach calls location. That part I couldn't see.
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Greenmonsters
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I was wondering hiw long it would take you to "catch" my response.
Took me a few mins to figure his calls out. The coach was calling the locations of the pitches, but I believe he was letting the pitcher decide on the speed during the off-speed breaking balls. He'd signal for the FB and CU.
Edit: The catcher and pitcher could have a system set up where the catcher is adding the speed ( choice ) after the coach calls location. That part I couldn't see.
Thanks for humoring me GD. Here's why I ask - after 3 weekends of summer tournaments, I've seen absolutely nothing so far that would indicate that an experienced catcher can't call a signifcantly more effective game than the dugout can. In fact, it's been just the opposite. Sorry, rant over. For now.
I'm in the camp with you that a pitcher/catcher "team" can call it very efficient at this level ( 18u ). I don't know this team very well who had the pitcher in question, don't know the background of the coach/catcher, I can only elaborate on what I saw.
Let me ask a question for your opinion on our terms this weekend. We picked up with a new team ( for us ), coach has gone against DD many times in the past, had a new catcher who had never seen DD. I believed he probably would call a better game for DD since he's accustom to her "style" and it's not a typical drop/rise/cu. Maybe after a couple of weekends, turn it over to the catcher, if we decide to play with them again?
Greenmonsters
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It does take a little while for a C to get used to a new P and get on the same page as to what pitches they have, their relative confidence in each pitch, and how they like to pitch. Sometimes it just doesn't click - some MLB pitchers had "personal catchers", but communication is critical during the getting to know each other stage - particularly between P and C. It falls much more upon the C to adapt to the pitcher's strengths and weaknesses. Pitch calling should never be a paint by numbers thing as once you establish a standard pitch sequence that predictability becomes a liability.
In your case, if the catcher is experienced at pitch calling, I would expect that she'd be capable of calling your DD effectively after just 1-2 games of help from the bench. If not, then keep the training wheels on a little longer. The pitcher should always have the ability to shake off a sign as they're the one that has the ultimate accountability. Sometimes its good to mix up P and C combos to find other ways to maximize a pitcher's effectiveness.
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