- Aug 21, 2008
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Sitting in the Detroit airport and I thought I'd see the response to what I wrote the other day about this topic. I was happy to see Rick agreed with me but, now the conversation has digressed into some things I simply don't understand and is over my head. And FrozenRope feels I should contribute more but, I simply cannot keep up with so much of what gets written. I don't understand it.
If there is a way to throw a ball faster using bullet spin, then it's very clear to me I do not understand IR at all. The full whipping motion of elbow, wrist and fingers snapping/whipping in sequence cannot happen with a turn of the wrist that creates bullet spin. Armwhip mentioned cupping the wrist, this is one of the first things I correct in a pitcher when I see them do it. If the wrist is "cupped" then it's already in the "snap" position and the only function it can do is TURN. This is bullet spin. I don't know how to snap my wrist if it's already in a cup position. But then again, maybe I'm just not getting it. That seems to be a habit of mine.
I think a lot of people on this board would benefit from taking 15 minutes at your team practice and pitching the ball to your team's catcher. Try it for yourself. I'm not saying train and go all out to make the US National team. But, questions like this would be answered if people did it for themselves. Whip your arm as hard as you can at the release of the ball, then try to do it with a turn of the wrist for bullet spin. Which goes faster and feels more natural? I'm guessing 75% of the questions that get asked on here could be answered by people who try it themselves. Again, I'm the first one to admit I don't understand where the conversation here has gone to, but to me the answer to the original question is a no brainer.
There is one caveat here: top spin can sometimes be deceptive. A pitcher can appear to have top spin while doing a turn of the wrist that goes OVER the ball (bullet spin has the hand twist UNDER the ball). An extreme of this motion is a chicken wing release. But if she's not chicken winging, she can still be turning her wrist and it gives the appearance of "top spin" from a peel action. But once again, turning the wrist over is not giving the whipping action. So, while it looks like there's top spin, looks can be deceiving!
Bill
If there is a way to throw a ball faster using bullet spin, then it's very clear to me I do not understand IR at all. The full whipping motion of elbow, wrist and fingers snapping/whipping in sequence cannot happen with a turn of the wrist that creates bullet spin. Armwhip mentioned cupping the wrist, this is one of the first things I correct in a pitcher when I see them do it. If the wrist is "cupped" then it's already in the "snap" position and the only function it can do is TURN. This is bullet spin. I don't know how to snap my wrist if it's already in a cup position. But then again, maybe I'm just not getting it. That seems to be a habit of mine.
I think a lot of people on this board would benefit from taking 15 minutes at your team practice and pitching the ball to your team's catcher. Try it for yourself. I'm not saying train and go all out to make the US National team. But, questions like this would be answered if people did it for themselves. Whip your arm as hard as you can at the release of the ball, then try to do it with a turn of the wrist for bullet spin. Which goes faster and feels more natural? I'm guessing 75% of the questions that get asked on here could be answered by people who try it themselves. Again, I'm the first one to admit I don't understand where the conversation here has gone to, but to me the answer to the original question is a no brainer.
There is one caveat here: top spin can sometimes be deceptive. A pitcher can appear to have top spin while doing a turn of the wrist that goes OVER the ball (bullet spin has the hand twist UNDER the ball). An extreme of this motion is a chicken wing release. But if she's not chicken winging, she can still be turning her wrist and it gives the appearance of "top spin" from a peel action. But once again, turning the wrist over is not giving the whipping action. So, while it looks like there's top spin, looks can be deceiving!
Bill