That is probably what DD throws. She ran across i believe his name is Jeremy Manley who showed her this pitch at age 11. Can be a nasty pitch.You are talking about the backhand change which is different than the flip change, at least in my book it is. The backhand is not a very good pitch. It's easy to detect, as your daughter knows, it's difficult to control and it's too slow. When I teach the flip I want the fingers go around the outside of the ball as the hand 'flips' over, this often results in some curve side spin. The hand should continue after release and finish in a way that looks like a fastball release.