pitching hand felt 'tingling'

[KCPRK]

If it was tingling/numb in only the thumb/index finger OR in the last three fingers it stems from the radial or ulner nerve depending on which. IF it was the whole hand and arm (forearm or bi/tri or all of the above) then its from the brachial nerve complex.

THREE very different issues and causes. 2 are potentially serious repetitive motion injuries and third is a strain that is easily healed.

So please specify. And yes this is my profession. There is so much misconception about RMIs.

 

[dmaeganx2]

So which ones are the potentially serious and which one is easily healed ??

 

[dmaeganx2]

Who is trying to diagnose. I asked him which ones where the serious ones, But for your info I already know which ones are the serious ones. However since I believe he said he was an ortho. So let him answer his experience would far out weigh yours and May actually help prevent something that is forth coming to the person that posted this thread...

 

[KCPRK]

OILF is always difficult and does not know anyone's professions and experience or expertise so lets ignore her ignorance. Her statement giving her opinion of ulnar and radial nerve compression contradicts her statement of not diagnosing. It is a widely misunderstood field.

So the intent of my post is if there is a continuing problem a very specific specialist is needed if its RMI CTS vs a nerve disorder. There's always exceptions to the rule but traditionally if you have CTS (radial or ulner nerve compression) it is usually serious possibly requiring surgery. these are associated with specific symptoms regarding either/or thumb and pointer finger tingling/numbess OR last three finger tingling or numbness. I wont bore you with RMI testing and pincer vs gripping motions and there effects on the nerves that are associated with CTS.

If you have the WHOLE hand tingling or numbness that is traditionally not associated with CTS but rather the brachial nerve complex which doesn't have compression concerns of RMIs. Typically that complex is stretched/strained do to an acute injury and heals quite well with minimal complications.

So does her hand tingle/numb as a whole or just a set of fingers?
Does this occur frequently or on occasion? If on occasion is there an acute action that sets off the symptoms or makes them worse?

Knowing this you would know which specific specialist to visit and general doctors/surgeons are not the answer like many think. From there you will be able to get an actual diagnosis from a true specialist in the field of RMIs/CTS or general nerve disorders. 2 VERY different fields.

 

[SoAZDad]

Just warning all you elbow brushers you'll never make it without injuries.

Have you compared the brushers that have/had long careers like Ueno, Osterman, or others to non-brushers and determined the non-brushers have had long, injury-free careers?

 

[KCPRK]

Its like the chicken and the egg. the radial and ulnar nerves are strands that branch out a major nerve complex. That's why you get very specific symptoms in very consistent manners when radial and ulnar nerves are involved and more general symptoms in larger body parts when nerve complexes are involved. Traditionally when the brachial nerve complex is injured you get numbness and tingling constantly in the hand forearm bi and tri-in short the arm as a whole (no shoulder issue typically just upper extremity)

Just trying to give a visual

 

[KCPRK]

Have you compared the brushers that have/had long careers like Ueno, Osterman, or others to non-brushers and determined the non-brushers have had long, injury-free careers?

I know this is all toungue in cheek BUT we are just now understanding that genetics and body composition affects predispositions to repetitive motion injuries.

As in 2 athletes can do the same exact things at the same modes with the same repetitions for the same length of time. Based on certain factors it is theorized that one may show signs of RMI and the other will not.

So we cant truly compare one motion to another based on anyones career without knowing their disposition to RMIs. That IMHO is a greater factor than technique or mechanics regardless of what we consider proper or improper

 

[KCPRK]

So which ones are the potentially serious and which one is easily healed ??

Typically ulnar and radial nerve compressions are potentially serious and nerve complex strains are easily healed.

 

[SoAZDad]

I know this is all toungue in cheek BUT we are just now understanding that genetics and body composition affects predispositions to repetitive motion injuries. AGREED, NO SURPRISE TO ME WHATSOEVER

As in 2 athletes can do the same exact things at the same modes with the same repetitions for the same length of time. Based on certain factors it is theorized that one may show signs of RMI and the other will not. AGAIN I AGREE, NO SURPRISE TO ME

So we cant truly compare one motion to another based on anyones career without knowing their disposition to RMIs. That IMHO is a greater factor than technique or mechanics regardless of what we consider proper or improper AGREE A THIRD TIME...HENCE MY CALL-OUT, IN PART, TO Gronk FOR SURMISING THAT BRUSHERS WILL BE PLAGUED WITH INJURIES

Thanks KCPRK!

 

[FastPitchCat]

So does her hand tingle/numb as a whole or just a set of fingers?
Does this occur frequently or on occasion? .

KCPRK, thanks. DD's fingers (not sure which ones) and forearm felt the tingle - as explained before, like a rush of fluid running up from the upper arm to the fingers. this happened only once, but as a bucket dad, i was a tad concerned since I also felt it when i was doing the motion. i'll update this thread once DD gets into more regular pitching training schedule and if it does happen again.

thanks!