As a dad who has spent a lot of time with a pretty good pitcher who is now 14 and never got very good (and moving on to other positions) I appreciate BoardMembers candor. There is room in rec, travel and high school for pitchers at every reasonable skill level with a variety of techniques to get it across the plate at a good rate of speed but to play at the higher levels of travel and highschool, be the ace and win on a winning team (and possibly earn that scholorship) you have got to get this thing right. Hoping to get there with my 9 year old who really seems to want it.