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I think it is fine to coach when the league doesn't actually need umpires (or to keep score for that matter), 4U t-ball for example..lol.
NO it is not appropriate.Coaches, is it appropriate, especially at the higher levels, to have a quiet conversation with your C about how we (she and I) both know what is going on and all she is doing is taking away my chance to get a good look at where the close pitch actually was?
Wait to be asked.So umpires, when you call an illegal pitch, do you accompany the call with the reason why? Do you wait to be asked why? Do you declare it just loud enough for the catcher to hear, louder for the coach to hear, or even louder for everyone's benefit?
The answer is still no. That goes beyond what an umpire is charged with doing. You seem intent on wanting the catcher to know that she is not "fooling" you with her attempts at framing. Let it go. Not your place.Let me be a bit more clear on this point, the catcher is not framing the pitch but clearly pulling it from out of the zone into the zone, then questioning why it is a ball, or HC is asking C where that pitch was and she says, "I dont know, I caught it right over the plate". If the catcher is puling the pitch into the zone, then she, obviously thought it was out of the zone to begin with.
Given that, hopefully, more straight forward statement of what I was talking about: Coaches, is it appropriate, especially at the higher levels, to have a quiet conversation with your C about how we (she and I) both know what is going on and all she is doing is taking away my chance to get a good look at where the close pitch actually was?
So umpires, when you call an illegal pitch, do you accompany the call with the reason why? Do you wait to be asked why? Do you declare it just loud enough for the catcher to hear, louder for the coach to hear, or even louder for everyone's benefit?
I totally agree, the question is this: What qualifies as coaching a player? Is it instructing them in technique? Is it Instructing them in rules issues? Both of the above?Hey @EdLovrich, don’t coach players. Ever.
If you are qualified and knowledgeable about rules interpretations and current officiating mechanics and philosophy, I actually would enjoy the opportunity to learn from another perspective. If you are not so qualified, then I certainly hope this statement wasn't some sort of veiled threat.If you coach my players, I get to coach you. You won’t like it.
If you are qualified and knowledgeable about rules interpretations and current officiating mechanics and philosophy,
I like that, “I wasn’t arguing with the ump Dad, I was coaching him”Hey @EdLovrich, don’t coach players. Ever.
If you coach my players, I get to coach you. You won’t like it.