Fastpitch hitters

[Shawn]

Pattar

There are very few hitters in the ML’s past and present that had a vertical forearm.

Molitor was closer to a horizontal forearm. I’ve seen hitters past and present do both.

 

[_MIA_]

Pattar

There are very few hitters in the ML’s past and present that had a vertical forearm.

Molitor was closer to a horizontal forearm. I’ve seen hitters past and present do both.

Yes I know..that is why I brought it up

 

[Shawn]

 

[Shawn]

HR LF

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I like her tip, maybe I should try that.

 

[julray]

Pattar

There are very few hitters in the ML’s past and present that had a vertical forearm.

Molitor was closer to a horizontal forearm. I’ve seen hitters past and present do both.

Molitor was vertical

 

[Borrowingminds]

I see Molitor and Boggs horizontal, maybe a lower handset, and tbh the fp examples above I see it too, to a degree.
I'd like to see an example posted of a real vertical rear forearm at launch from a high level hitter. I can post a load of 10u players.

I don't think you can speak in absolutes, except that an absolute vertical forearm at launch is not good. Especially training youth hitters, who seem to feel powerful by slotting the rear elbow at launch (vertical rear forearm) and ripping through. DBSF, bat/elbow drag, dumping and all that...

I like the horizontal rear forearm as a checkpoint in training, otherwise sequence seems harder to maintain, forces from the ground up don't seem to efficiently find the barrel.

 

[julray]

I see Molitor and Boggs horizontal, maybe a lower handset, and tbh the fp examples above I see it too, to a degree.
I'd like to see an example posted of a real vertical rear forearm at launch from a high level hitter. I can post a load of 10u players.

I don't think you can speak in absolutes, except that an absolute vertical forearm at launch is not good. Especially training youth hitters, who seem to feel powerful by slotting the rear elbow at launch (vertical rear forearm) and ripping through. DBSF, bat/elbow drag, dumping and all that...

I like the horizontal rear forearm as a checkpoint in training, otherwise sequence seems harder to maintain, forces from the ground up don't seem to efficiently find the barrel.

Vertical


vs

Horizontal


Even your gifs(Boggs and Molitor) are much more vertical than you typical MLB hitters. We are talking rear arm, right?

 

[_MIA_]

I see Molitor and Boggs horizontal, maybe a lower handset, and tbh the fp examples above I see it too, to a degree.
I'd like to see an example posted of a real vertical rear forearm at launch from a high level hitter. I can post a load of 10u players.

I don't think you can speak in absolutes, except that an absolute vertical forearm at launch is not good. Especially training youth hitters, who seem to feel powerful by slotting the rear elbow at launch (vertical rear forearm) and ripping through. DBSF, bat/elbow drag, dumping and all that...

I like the horizontal rear forearm as a checkpoint in training, otherwise sequence seems harder to maintain, forces from the ground up don't seem to efficiently find the barrel.

Are they perfectly vertical, no, but Molitor and Boggs (in those clips) are a lot closer to vertical rear forearms at toe touch then they are to horizontal rear forearms. Again I wasn't saying anything about what is right or wrong, just stating that I found it interesting that their seem to be differences between what you seen on average for the best hitters in baseball and softball.

 

[efastball]

Molitor was vertical

No. Are you looking at the forearm? At toe touch? Both are completely flat.

 

[Borrowingminds]

Are they perfectly vertical, no, but Molitor and Boggs (in those clips) are a lot closer to vertical rear forearms at toe touch then they are to horizontal rear forearms. Again I wasn't saying anything about what is right or wrong, just stating that I found it interesting that their seem to be differences between what you seen on average for the best hitters in baseball and softball.

I'm not saying anything is right or wrong, just how I observe at the moment.

I see Boggs particularly true horizontal at his go time in my clip above. I can't really tell with Molitor. They don't toe touch as Julray's clip shows, almost just plant the stride foot. Same with Julray's, he balances at toe touch, then lifts it ever so slightly, then go time, putting him the same situation as both Bogg's and Molitor, just higher hands.

These observations are what always have me keep an eye on the one legged camp. When is their launch? Maybe the point I see them firing is wrong. I'm open to correction. But for the current topic, I think horizontal rear forearm is a good cue.