Swing down

[Mudders Brudder]

.please stop using this illustration. no pitch comes in at that angle unless playing Slo pitch. Most baseball pitches are 4-8 degrees.

Yes, if the narrative doesn't match your understanding or interpretation...just ask for it to be eliminated.

Is that illustration not an exact replication or an exaggeration of an incoming pitch? Sure, but no more incorrect or exaggerated than all of the swing down examples some pros show in their demos that you, and some others clamor onto so religiously.

But let's just use your statement that "most baseball pitches are 4-8 degrees" on a downward path. Then yes, and "slight upswing" of approx 4-8 degrees would be a good barrel path to match the plane of that pitch earlier, than one straight "down to" at a negative, or even level path that bisects the hitting zone instead of traveling "through" it....ie. "behind and through" vs "down and to". Sound familiar?

Does the blue line represent the hitting zone? if so this isn’t what Barrel behind the ball means to @FP26. he wants it deeper right? what would the implications of that be?

Yes, the blue line is representative of the barrel through the hitting zone. If you have a question for me I'll answer it...I'm not about to go and try to start answering for other folks (even though I agree with what @FP26 has been saying all along).

 

[Work=wins]

Lol, I said take the barrel straight to contact In the direction you want to drive the ball. Didn't think that was vague

that would be too much inside out getting under or jammed. a chicken wing. No release of the head. No pop. If you say it’s barrel to the ball earlier than its a cast. I don’t know any other way to describe it.

listen to AP. This is what adjustable release is. Throw the head where and when you want. barry and Albert share the same approach. Hit the ball where it’s pitched.

 

[julray]

This is actually a pretty good analogy wrt getting the head of the hammer "behind" the nail head.

Start several nails in a wall at various heights between the carpenter's chest and knees...and then have him start with the hammer somewhere at, or just slightly above his shoulder, and see the hand path he takes hammer head to nail head.

Will he swing straight "down to" nail - for a glancing blow to the nail - or will he put some amount of "loop" in the swing to get the hammer head directly "behind" the nail coming into contact?

Or will he adjust his posture and use the same direct motion to the nail head.. eliminating most of the loop.

 

[Work=wins]

Yes, if the narrative doesn't match your understanding or interpretation...just ask for it to be eliminated.

Is that illustration not an exact replication or exaggeration of an incoming pitch? Sure, but no more incorrect or exaggerated than all of the swing down examples the pro show in their demos that you, and some other clamor onto so religiously.

But let's just us your statement that "most baseball pitches are 4-8 degrees" on a downward path. Then yes, and "slight upswing" of approx 4-8 degrees would be a good barrel path to match the plane of that pitch earlier, than one straight "down to" at a negative, or even level path that bisects the hitting zone instead of traveling "through" it....ie. "behind and through" vs "down and to". Sound familiar?


Yes, the blue line is representative of the barrel through the hitting zone. If you have a question for me I'll answer it...I'm not about to go and try to start answering for other folks (even though I agree with what @FP26 has been saying all along).

yeah. That’s why I notified FP. im not saying you don’t finish up through the swing. I’m saying you swing down to get on plane. Shortest loop, and you level out to the ball, not the ground. That’s long through the zone Imo.

 

[clemenslee1]

that would be too much inside out getting under or jammed. a chicken wing. No release of the head. No pop. If you say it’s barrel to the ball earlier than its a cast. I don’t know any other way to describe it.

listen to AP. This is what adjustable release is. Throw the head where and when you want. barry and Albert share the same approach. Hit the ball where it’s pitched.

We might just have to agree to disagree, I simply don't understand how you came to those conclusions? This is all base on pitch read and location and timing

I also agree very much with AP

 

[Mudders Brudder]

Or will he adjust his posture and use the same direct motion to the nail head.. eliminating most of the loop.

Both as Ted showed...

It's not an "either or" kind of thing.

 

[Shawn]

I started it and now I'm going to finish it.

Getting behind the ball,

 

[_MIA_]

now I'm going to finish it.

 

[Work=wins]

Here’s an analogy on direction and posture.

Your body is naturally designed to be efficient. it’s for survival. It’s nature. ‘He who does the least to create the most survives the longest.‘ - someone smart.

With that being said.. do you reach for the wine glass w Your posture or your hands? Why is it different in hitting? It’s about efficiency not power. Sure you will get more power if the pitch is in ’your’ posture, that’s why pitchers don’t throw it there. Lol.

 

[julray]

Both as Ted showed...

It's not an "either or" kind of thing.

fair enough