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What has been resonating for the hitters I work with is the simple cue of setting the hands on plane for a middle/middle pitch and adjusting from there as they turn the barrel. Rich using the term lasering and I use it as well. If you grab a 5' piece of pvc and hold it in the middle you can practice hitting a tossed ball with bottom end of the pvc and your hands have to be on plane. In a regular swing the barrel would naturally follow the path/plane the hands set as long as the rear forearm is supinating and the front forearm is pronating.
 
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What has been resonating for the hitters I work with is the simple cue of setting the hands on plane for a middle/middle pitch and adjusting from there as they turn the barrel. Rich using the term lasering and I use it as well. If you grab a 5' piece of pvc and hold it in the middle you can practice hitting a tossed ball with bottom end of the pvc and your hands have to be on plane. In a regular swing the barrel would naturally follow the path/plane the hands set as long as the rear forearm is supinating and the front forearm is pronating.

What... Setting the hands on plane for a pitch in a average location and then adjusting... What a radical idea/cue!!!
 
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What... Setting the hands on plane for a pitch in a average location and then adjusting... What a radical idea/cue!!!
OK, I'm curious again...

Are you under the impression that TTB is a fixed movement that's the same regardless of pitch location? Did you not see all of the various location of the pitches that Miggy was TTB to in the collage that RB posted? So do you believe that hitters move their hands from their "launch position" to some other place(s) before they actually "launch" the barrel to the ball? :confused:
 
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OK, I'm curious again...

Are you under the impression that TTB is a fixed movement that's the same regardless of pitch location? Did you not see all of the various location of the pitches that Miggy was TTB to in the collage that RB posted? So do you believe that hitters move their hands from their "launch position" to some other place(s) before they actually "launch" the barrel to the ball? :confused:
I am just repeating what Butternmaker said.. Why are curious with what I am saying.. Go to the horses mouth.. Not the parrot. The reasom why I was intrigued with what he said is because I also use a cue which helps my DD get to picthes in all locations ... Except we don't emphasize TTB.. If we did, this discussion wouldnt be so popular.

buttermaker said...
"What has been resonating for the hitters I work with is the simple cue of setting the hands on plane for a middle/middle pitch and adjusting from there as they turn the barrel."

BTW.. Feel kind of silly answering this.. But no I dont believe TTB is a fixed position.
 
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Apr 11, 2015
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I am just repeating what Butternmaker said.. Why are curious with what I am saying.. Go to the horses mouth.. Not the parrot. The reasom why I was intrigued with what he said is because I also use a cue which helps my DD get to picthes in all locations ... Except we don't emphasize TTB.. If we did, this discussion wouldnt be so popular.
I only asked your take on it because I already know what Butter teaches (we've had plenty discussions, disagreements, PMs, and came to a consensus elsewhere), and I think you're trying to read something into what he wrote that's not there...or maybe I'm out of the loop of what he's now teaching, and it's somehow different now that what it was when.

I don't believe he's saying that the TTB happens from somewhere other than the hitters "launch position" (Hudgens called it "Position of Power", and I remember FFS saying Slaught had another name for it)...but others will say that hitters take their hands from that "launch position" to some other spot before the actually "launch" the barrel. I'm just trying to figure out what it is you're saying is all.

But no biggie if you'd rather not answer, it's not that important to me, and I'm OK if you're beliefs/teachings don't match mine.


All the best,
MB
 
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I am just repeating what Butternmaker said.. Why are curious with what I am saying.. Go to the horses mouth.. Not the parrot. The reasom why I was intrigued with what he said is because I also use a cue which helps my DD get to picthes in all locations ... Except we don't emphasize TTB.. If we did, this discussion wouldnt be so popular.

buttermaker said...
"What has been resonating for the hitters I work with is the simple cue of setting the hands on plane for a middle/middle pitch and adjusting from there as they turn the barrel."

In response to 'setting hands' anywhere . I'm more of the notion that the hands should be free(tds) to adjust to where the eyes tell them to. Now if your talking "LOOKING" middle and adjusting out or in. I do see that as a great approach . As far as up and down. You could only look high and adjust low. Because of gravity and time . imo.
 
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