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May 17, 2012
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What happens with next seasons team has nothing to do with what happens this season.

The coach is a moron. I wouldn't pay another dollar and I would seek a refund if you paid ahead.

The one possible benefit to playing this weekend is to talk to the other teams that are out there and see if any of them need a catcher.
 
Jun 21, 2015
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That's terrible. I feel for you and your daughter. I hope she finds somewhere to play.


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marriard

Not lost - just no idea where I am
Oct 2, 2011
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You know, it would have been nice to have some communication about all of this. NOTHING. Nada. And other heads are apparently on the chopping block. We were just placeholders for him for the spring while he courts old players. I don't like being used and jerked around. And judging her based on an injury that has healed (not that he's had a chance to evaluate that at all). We are done with this "team." Guess we'll just pick up until tryouts roll around in August. Glad we asked the question!

I am so sick of saying "He really knows his softball, too bad he is a such an a(#*#(@"." And you may not even be able to say that about this guy.

I truly hope it all collapses on him, but too many of these idiots seem to end up with talented teams. This seems to perpetuates the myth that the coach can gets results because he can coach when all he can do is fool parents with talented kids to be on his team.

The good news is you were paying by the tournament so you don't have as much money sunk into the team as many others do at this stage. Sound like you joined this team with at least 5 others - feel free to make sure they are absolutely clear why you are leaving and that you expect their kid is next to be replaced - or that they will be sooner or later. You should also feel free to answer honestly when people ask you why you left.

I am sure there are teams looking for catchers out there. There always is. Good luck on finding a better situation.
 

Strike2

Allergic to BS
Nov 14, 2014
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Time to go.... I wouldn't even waste my time this weekend unless she wants to hit and sit.

Yes hitting is playing but college and MLB players are paid to hit and sit. I ain't paying for my DD to sit at this age period! PT is for development to get to the next level and if you are not playing, youre not developing IMO.

Absolutely correct, except that playing time is not only for development; it's why you sign up in the first place. There may be times, perhaps in late bracket or finals games, when a coach optimizes the lineup. Other than that, playing time should be distributed. Unless a team is ridiculously large, everyone can be rotated and playing in most of the available innings over the course of a tournament.
 
Aug 19, 2015
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How did the coach define DD's role before the season?

Did he indicate that he planned to keep players at their preferred positions and add in the missing pieces (2 IF, 1 OF, 1 P)? Or was that assumed? Did he view the team as 8 players, with their positions to be determined based on what he is successful in adding to the mix?

Coach is to be credited for his candor in the email, but questions remain about his candor from the start. Was he keeping his true motivations secret until someone asked? If 8 players are under the impression that they're part of a long-term plan when he's willing to cut some loose in August, then that should be made known.

I hate to say this part, but I doubt that a fuller evaluation of DD would change his mind. Sounds like the other original catcher also is not what he's looking for, and you indicated yours was on par with that one.
Doesn't mean yours isn't talented, but sounds like he is looking for something even higher.

In short, coaches need to communicate and let people know the plan. If parents and players are confused when the dust settles from a tournament, then there is a failure to communicate. Parents share some of that responsibility to ask questions, but it starts at the top.


Everything was pitched to us by our teammate's Mom. It was basically that we have a core group and will add on with former players of his who are unsatisfied with their current teams. NEVER a hint of "and then we'll cut you guys because he'll have the band back together." Not a whiff of that. I wonder how complicit team mom is in this. She was the cheerleader/mouthpiece, raving about what a great coach he is, etc... He had little to none (and I mean not one email, not one text) contact with the parents. She did ALL of it. I think this was all planned from the get-go and it really pisses me off.
 
Aug 19, 2015
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Well...you have your answer. It may not be the answer you wanted to hear, but it sounds like he was honest with you about his plans and opinion about your DD. IMO, the best thing you can do is find a new place where she can prove her value.

He was honest AFTER we poked and prodded. He had no intention of telling any of the "old team" players this, I don't believe.
 
Aug 19, 2015
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Atlanta, GA
I am so sick of saying "He really knows his softball, too bad he is a such an a(#*#(@"." And you may not even be able to say that about this guy.

I truly hope it all collapses on him, but too many of these idiots seem to end up with talented teams. This seems to perpetuates the myth that the coach can gets results because he can coach when all he can do is fool parents with talented kids to be on his team.

The good news is you were paying by the tournament so you don't have as much money sunk into the team as many others do at this stage. Sound like you joined this team with at least 5 others - feel free to make sure they are absolutely clear why you are leaving and that you expect their kid is next to be replaced - or that they will be sooner or later. You should also feel free to answer honestly when people ask you why you left.

I am sure there are teams looking for catchers out there. There always is. Good luck on finding a better situation.

Let's just say we communicated with the four other players from our old team (excluding team mom's daughter, of course) to apprise them of the conversation. If they choose to stay knowing they'll likely be cut for fall, at least they will have had all the data.
 

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