Softball arm injuries versus baseball

[Gtrips07]

So there was a study dome that arm and shoulder injuries occur at the same rate in softball as in baseball. I'm thinking we will see a pitch count or should see a pitch count introduced at the lower levels.

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New Study: The Disparity between Softball and Baseball Pitching Research — Raymer Strength & Rehab

Take a look at baseball pitching and softball pitching research side by side in this new paper that shows the r eality that shoulder and elbow injury rates are comparable between softball and baseball pitchers

raymerstrength.com

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[_MIA_]

I'm thinking we will see a pitch count or should see a pitch count introduced at the lower levels.

Not again..

 

[tomorrow]

Maybe articles like this can help answer the ancillary questions like "Should Pitchers take time off ?" Even if we don't see a way to have pitch counts.

 

[MoJo]

Softball is way past the time to have pitching limits.

Girls of all ages are suffering from over use. Crazy

 

[GunnerShotgun]

So there was a study dome that arm and shoulder injuries occur at the same rate in softball as in baseball. I'm thinking we will see a pitch count or should see a pitch count introduced at the lower levels.

Comment?

New Study: The Disparity between Softball and Baseball Pitching Research — Raymer Strength & Rehab

Take a look at baseball pitching and softball pitching research side by side in this new paper that shows the r eality that shoulder and elbow injury rates are comparable between softball and baseball pitchers

raymerstrength.com

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That article is hot garbage coming from a website that is trying to sell something. The way they link the references is dishonest once you unpack it all.

Go read the actual linked (reference) papers and not the website.

 

[FlSoftball]

Softball is way past the time to have pitching limits.

Girls of all ages are suffering from over use. Crazy

I just don't see tons of girls "suffering from overuse". In 8-9 years I have seen 12-15 go down with tendinitis(some with pinched nerves and 2 or 3 with knees due to poor mechanics- landing at 45 and hyper extending)- some took the recommended time off and did the pt and were fine while some rushed it and came back early or didnt do the pt and went back out again with the same issue. I have seen more infielders and outfielders with torn labrum's than pitcher injuries requiring any type of surgeries. Yes pitchers get injured but the biggest one I have seen over the years is sprained ankles usually from a crappy mound but not overuse.


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[Gtrips07]

That article is hot garbage coming from a website that is trying to sell something. The way they link the references is dishonest once you unpack it all.

Go read the actual linked (reference) papers and not the website.

Here's the article they link to

https://jsesreviewsreportstech.org/article/S2666-6391(23)00071-8/fulltext

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[LEsoftballdad]

I just don't see tons of girls "suffering from overuse". In 8-9 years I have seen 12-15 go down with tendinitis(some with pinched nerves and 2 or 3 with knees due to poor mechanics- landing at 45 and hyper extending)- some took the recommended time off and did the pt and were fine while some rushed it and came back early or didnt do the pt and went back out again with the same issue. I have seen more infielders and outfielders with torn labrum's than pitcher injuries requiring any type of surgeries. Yes pitchers get injured but the biggest one I have seen over the years is sprained ankles usually from a crappy mound but not overuse.


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Well, my daughter is one of those *rare* occasions of an overuse injury for a pitcher. Oh wait, they're not that rare. While I will agree that poor mechanics can and will lead to injury, overuse is a major problem.

110+ IP in the span of 45 days would be unheard of in baseball, yet that was my daughter's workload this spring. Five scheduled back-to-back games, and 19 regular season games in 45 days for teams with one reliable pitcher will lead to injuries. Shoulder tendonitis was the result, and it cost her the summer season. She was so worried about missing her recruiting events that she did rush back, and never told us she was still experiencing pain. Now the Ortho gave her a 4-6 mandatory vacation from pitching or throwing overhand.

Maybe we're rare because we're not a softball hotbed, but I've seen numerous girls miss the early summer tournaments due to HS overuse. In fact, some college coaches were lobbying to shutdown recruiting in the fall because the pitchers were burned out and hurt from the constant grind of TB and HS.

 

[Gtrips07]

Well, my daughter is one of those *rare* occasions of an overuse injury for a pitcher. Oh wait, they're not that rare. While I will agree that poor mechanics can and will lead to injury, overuse is a major problem.

110+ IP in the span of 45 days would be unheard of in baseball, yet that was my daughter's workload this spring. Five scheduled back-to-back games, and 19 regular season games in 45 days for teams with one reliable pitcher will lead to injuries. Shoulder tendonitis was the result, and it cost her the summer season. She was so worried about missing her recruiting events that she did rush back, and never told us she was still experiencing pain. Now the Ortho gave her a 4-6 mandatory vacation from pitching or throwing overhand.

Maybe we're rare because we're not a softball hotbed, but I've seen numerous girls miss the early summer tournaments due to HS overuse. In fact, some college coaches were lobbying to shutdown recruiting in the fall because the pitchers were burned out and hurt from the constant grind of TB and HS.

I'd argue overuse is what caused Jordyn Bahl's broken arm.

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[FlSoftball]

Sorry to hear about your daughter. But that's exactly what I said if the girls rush back it happens again- that's A LOT of innings in a short period and it's no wonder she had an issue- my daughter threw around the same amount in HS but that was over close to 3 months- I still do not see a widespread tendinitis issue at least around me and that is talking to a few pitching coaches with a ton of students at all levels from SEC commits to big ten down to LL in addition to other parents and players on different teams around the SE. When my daughter pitches a lot in a shorter period of time she may be sore that day but it is always only in 2 places the core, and sometimes the glutes from pushing but never arm, elbow, or back.


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