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The runner in outfield must move only in green directions but he may not move in red directions, right?Yes, the runner can change their direction at any time, but if they do, it would have to be in the red or blue direction. The runner, cannot retreat in the orange directions.
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think the admin should move this thread to discussbaseball.comonly now I realized that I posted in the wrong session, I apologize. Could an admin move my threads to the rules section? Thanks
The rule is not very clear, what would you think if they abolished it?
Hello,
I'd want to know more about the basepath.
I have many questions about it.
First the tag attempt
This is the definition:
"A runner's base path is established when the tag attempt occurs and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is attempting to reach safely."
But when does a tag attempt begin?
1. A fielder, with the ball, moves towards a runner, is this considered a tag attempt though he is still far from the runner?
2. Or must the fielder get close enough to the runner?
Second
Now when is a tag attempt considered finished?
If a runner avoid a tag attempt legally is the tag attempt considered finished?
I mean a fielder tries to tag the runner, fielder failed to tag him but he won’t give up tagging him and try again. Is this a new tag attempt?
I mean when can a runner create a new basepath? When can he change directions?
Third
If a runner is between the base, for example, between 1B and 2b, on the same tag attempt could he go forward and backward between the bases?
The important thing is not to go out three feet to the right or left?
I mean is avoiding a tag attempt backward on the basepath, when a runner is between the bases, legale?
This is a gif (First gif) to explain my question.
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Fourth
How define the basepath in a skunk in outfield or in a broken mirror play?
The basepath is defined when a tag attempt begin so a fielder moves towards the runner, though he is still far from the runner, right?
But the basepath is dynamic?
As the runner runs towards, for example, 2B the basepath changes with him so can he not get back to his precedent spot in right field?
As he moves towards second, the baseline moves down with him, so once he got near second base, his baseline became the “standard” baseline everyone knows about, with 3 feet on either side.
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Like in this video
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Or a basepath is a static concept? I mean the runner can get back to his precedent spot where he was when the tag attempt begin?
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Once the runner goes toward 2B the runner can not get back to his precedent spot or can go in a direct line between the 1B and 2B and can not zygzagging.
He can goes directly only towards 1B or 2B.
But what if a runner goes toward 2B, starting from right field, with a fielder trying a tag, changes his mind and goes toward 1B, in this case does he violate the 3 feet rule?
The red arrow is the runner's direction. Blue is where the runner come.
Because in a standard baseline between the bases, during the same tag attempt, you can go backward and forward, you must only not deviate 3 feet to the right or left. Instead in a skunk in outfield situation a runner can go only towards a base? Or can he change the direction even during the same tag attempt?
Thanks you so much.
WRONG, again. As are several other statements in this post and the poster's prior posts.A runner establishes his or her base path from one base to the next.
To avoid interference a runner may wish to move around an infielder making an initial attempt to field a batted ball. In competitive situations, a runner may seek to screen a batted ball or slide before an attempted play at an advancing base before a force out or tag is completed. In certain associations and rule codes, a runner is also permitted to leap an infielder but risks being called out for interference and possible ejection on a play seeking to induce an obstruction (deliberate contact with a defensive player in the base path or blocked base ) call.
When does a tag end? It ends with the completion of playing action. A defensive player cannot push a runner off base to seek an out call. But a defensive player may continue applying a tag on a runner until the play ends, including an overslide at any base. Base running rules have become stricter over the years to avoid unnecessary injuries caused by player contact on the base paths.
When a runner misses a base and is not tagged out, the runner in some associations and under certain rules codes can be called out without the opportunity to return to that base depending on the circumstance. For an umpire, there is no out or safe call until playing action ends. No call indicates no end to the play. The outcome then determines what happens next, meaning what ruling is applied.