Unraveling Pitching Frustrations

[Hillhouse]

JayW I'm not saying I agree, but I can understand why that lady would call that an error. It almost seems like there should be a way to score that as something other than a hit. A routine fly ball that is missed shouldn't be labeled a hit, although I know that's the rule. I realize I'm coming at this from a pitcher's perspective but, if a hit or an error is a judgement call on something in the infield, why can't that type situation be considered an error? We should apply the same standard to these as we do ground balls, was it routine or not. Of course, giving parents ANOTHER avenue to not let anything be an earned run is problematic as well. LOL. Homeruns could be listed as "errors" since the outfielder didn't extend far enough over the fence to rob it. LOL. LOL. LOL.

Having said that, the gamechanger controller has a lot of power! lol.

But, as I was saying I hear it all the time about how good Sally Jones pitched but the team made 10 errors behind her. But most parents tend to overstate or double the amount of actual errors behind Sally so, it was probably more like 5. Still a lot of errors.

This generation of players is missing out on the best fielding clinician in the world, Howard Kobata. He's kind of like the Donald Trump of fielding, you either love him or hate him. Not a lot of "he's ok" statements. Last I knew he moved to the Philippines. I wish he would've trained someone to take his place when he retired. All that infield knowledge will die on the vine now. I wonder if his stuff is on YouTube?

 

[_MIA_]

This generation of players is missing out on the best fielding clinician in the world, Howard Kobata. He's kind of like the Donald Trump of fielding, you either love him or hate him. Not a lot of "he's ok" statements. Last I knew he moved to the Philippines. I wish he would've trained someone to take his place when he retired. All that infield knowledge will die on the vine now. I wonder if his stuff is on YouTube?

He has videos which you can acquire but nothing on youtube. There are a few baseball instructors which I use which I think are good for basic fielding mechanics which are more or less the same in both sports. Biggest difference imo between softball and baseball is the decision-making on how to play certain balls because of the lack of time softball IF have in general.

 

[Hillhouse]

He has videos which you can acquire but nothing on youtube. There are a few baseball instructors which I use which I think are good for basic fielding mechanics which are more or less the same in both sports. Biggest difference imo between softball and baseball is the decision-making on how to play certain balls because of the lack of time softball IF have in general.

And that's what Howard's specialty was, how to field and throw with more speed. His tag line was always "Too slow!" I probably did 20 clinics with him throughout North America, I think he comes back to the USA on occasion I'll have to see if he works when he's here. I'm sure he misses softball, people in the Philippines don't seem to use his services.

 

[_MIA_]

And that's what Howard's specialty was, how to field and throw with more speed. His tag line was always "Too slow!" I probably did 20 clinics with him throughout North America, I think he comes back to the USA on occasion I'll have to see if he works when he's here. I'm sure he misses softball, people in the Philippines don't seem to use his services.

Right, I remember people mentioning on here that catch phrase of his . I want to say the mechanics which he taught doesn't differ from those guys I mentioned but I could be wrong.

 

[wheresmycar]

JayW I'm not saying I agree, but I can understand why that lady would call that an error. It almost seems like there should be a way to score that as something other than a hit.

Game Changer should add "Incompetence" as a scoring option, maybe that will make LF Lucy (not picking on Lucy, could be LF Linda, Laura, Larry.....) feel better than getting an E9.

 

[madone09]

Most coaches/players I’ve seen at 10U- 14U don’t understand the game well enough to realize an easy ground ball or a fly ball is a win for the pitcher and a result of hitting their spot/ spinning the ball, should be a routine out but the pitcher usually gets the reputation of getting “hit” a lot. These are typically the teams seeking a “bracket” pitcher every weekend to come in and strike out the lineup so their lousy defense can win some games. Defense should expect a hit ball every pitch. Strike outs are a bonus but walks are on the pitcher.

 

[Bulldog68]

"Of course pitchers get frustrated, but good ones never show their frustrations."

My DD pitches 12U and her coaches and I stress this with her. Never let the other team see what's in your head. Does it help your team if you show frustration? No. Is the ump gonna give you the call if you're questioning his strike zone? No. Keep a cool head and keep throwing.

 

[madone09]

I was sitting with a pitcher’s mom last week. She used to be a reasonable woman. Her daughter was on the mound and she was doing gamechanger for the team. The batter hit a fly ball and the LF came charging in. The ball sailed over her head and the batter reached 3rd. The LF never came close to touching the ball. I read the box score later and the pitcher’s mom called it an error. All a matter of perspective, I guess.

If LF came charging “in” and the ball went over her head than that is clearly an error and misread ball. If she was charging in full blast and didn’t reach the ball that dropped in front of her then no error.


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[Greg Tudor]

Lots of posts about how to pitch and pitching strategies.
But, Is pitching all it takes?

Its got to be extra daunting having a field of players who may not carry the weight they should.

How come bad throws?
How come cant catch that fly ball?
How come that little grounder wasnt an out?
How come runners are stealing?

Pitchers work on technical improvements generally more than the majority of their defense.
*Is it fair the defense makes simple errors when pitchers can only error by inches?

As a catcher always think
i have to work twice as hard as the pitcher.
For both their good days and bad.
As a coach things like throwing errors, & missed easy plays, are as bad as looking at strike 3.
Knowing how hard pitchers work. I take seriously the technical work i needed to put in as a teammate... And transfered that into leading others!

So this question~
How do pitchers handle
the bad defensive plays?

Because, I am certain if i were a pitcher, there would have been a few teammates i would have suggested doing some technical work

I’m following this cause my daughter is a 12u pitcher and she only pitches in the mid to up 40’s but her spin and rotation is pretty awesome so the majority of the hits are all ground balls so it really bothers her that even though she is pitching a awesome game it’s the defense that’s not doing their job and let’s not forget the dropped 3rd strikes and the girl is safe at first so far she doesn’t blame the other players but it is really taking a toll on her mentally


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[Greg Tudor]

Yes definetly that
But do pitchers just move on?
Like a natural instinct they just ignor this? Hmmmm???
...theres gotta be a learning curve for atleast some pitchers. I'd imagine there is also a limit to basically forget about it.

How about that one teammate who consistantly is inconsistent?
How come they cant even throw to first base at a target thats 6 feet around? Can throw anywhere catchable and still nope throwing error.
How come the ball bounces out of that outfielders glove so much?
How come they couldnt sprint to that?

Yep i'm calling out the defense
Who should be doing some technical work

I keep telling my daughter NO MATTER WHAT she just has to keep doing her job and the right people does see that she is but it’s the other parents that run their mouth about well if Izzy would pitch fast or better then the other team wouldn’t hit the ball so much but there is a HUGE difference between getting rocked and doing her job and giving up ground balls but it’s hard to get a 12yr old to remember that sometimes


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