Two runners occupying same base

[PlayPerfect]

NFHS - Is this a live ball appeal play? How does an umpire/team/coach handle it?

 

[MTR]

NFHS - Is this a live ball appeal play? How does an umpire/team/coach handle it?

Call the proper player out when tagged while still in contact with the based occupied by another player. If a force, lead runner would be the proper player. If not, the trailing runner.

And yes, this is a live ball appeal.

 

[daveasa/fed]

Call the proper player out when tagged while still in contact with the based occupied by another player. If a force, lead runner would be the proper player. If not, the trailing runner.

And yes, this is a live ball appeal.

Technically this is not a live ball appeal, as it is not an appeal at all. It is however a play that needs to be made during a live ball to get an out.

Types of appeals:
a. Missing a base, either advancing or returning (live or dead-ball appeal).
b. Leaving a base on a caught fly ball before the ball is first touched (live or dead-ball appeal).
c. Batting out of order (dead-ball appeal only).
d. Attempting to advance to second base after making the turn at first base overrunning first base (live-ball appeal only).

 

[smddad]

You tag them both. One will be out.

 

[cvsoftball]

You tag them both. One will be out.

I know that's not the answer being requested but that is the answer of experience, eh

 

[MTR]

Technically this is not a live ball appeal, as it is not an appeal at all. It is however a play that needs to be made during a live ball to get an out.

Types of appeals:
a. Missing a base, either advancing or returning (live or dead-ball appeal).
b. Leaving a base on a caught fly ball before the ball is first touched (live or dead-ball appeal).
c. Batting out of order (dead-ball appeal only).
d. Attempting to advance to second base after making the turn at first base overrunning first base (live-ball appeal only).

Agree, shouldn't have automatically repeated what was in the OP. But while we are on the subject neither is (d) above. It is listed under an appeal, but it is nothing more than making a play on an active runner.

 

[Mike Alwine]

Something like this situation?
LSU can't get anyone out in wild rundown - ESPN Video

 

[BretMan]

And what if the defense doesn't tag anybody, and the runners both just stand there, while the ball goes back to the pitcher?

Then it doesn't need to be a live ball tag out. At the end of the play, the umpire would call time, then call out the runner not entitled to the base (lead runner if forced, trailing runner if not).

This is an NFHS interpretation that can be found in their case book. Some rule sets- ASA, for instance- would have the umpire call time, then advance the lead runner to the next base or put the trailing runner on the previous base (again, depending on if forced or not).

 

[PlayPerfect]

The initial intention of my original question was to clarify what happened when two runners stood on the same base for a split second, and I thought this meant occupy. It said the runner who occupied it first is entitled to it, the other merely needs to be tagged out. I guess the casebook said, upon dead ball, a runner would be called out.