- Oct 24, 2010
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Base coach took advantage of the umpires. That's shite.
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The OP is asking for people to tell them that they are right. That’s all. They already know the rule. They know the answer, they are just looking for 25 people to tell them they were screwed. And I’m sure that mom in the stands with her iPhone in hand asking to tell the ump what the call should have been is going to go over really well.The OP was asking for what the call should've been. Responses like this are so utterly worthless. Literally everybody knows that whatever the umpire "sees" goes, but that is useless in teaching people what the call should have been so they fully understand the rules. It's not about changing the call. It's about learning what the call should've been and growing one's personal knowledge about the game.
Maybe next time the OP will have an umpire that doesn't quite understand the rule as well, but now they understand it better so they can actually help get the call corrected.
A couple of points to address your concerns about my motive:The OP is asking for people to tell them that they are right. That’s all. They already know the rule. They know the answer, they are just looking for 25 people to tell them they were screwed. And I’m sure that mom in the stands with her iPhone in hand asking to tell the ump what the call should have been is going to go over really well.
The umpire was standing in a position that would have clearly allowed him to see the runner and the pitcher. He didn't turn his back to the runner. I think he just wasn't paying attention.2) Base coach took advantage of both catcher and pitcher turning their backs on the runner on 3B.
3. The opposing coach played softball in college and I believe that she has a firm grasp of the rules. If she does, in fact, understand the rules, then why did she clearly encourage illegal base running and risk getting called out? At that point, I started to question my understanding of the rules. If this is not a forum to discuss softball rules, please let me know.
My understanding is an umpire can only call what they see and shouldn't be guessing on what happened if they miss the play. In 10u my DD lost a bracket game because the other coach (who also was the tournament director) convinced the umpire our runner took off after the pitcher was in the circle when the pitcher was two to three steps outside the circle when our runner took off. Umpires weren't paying attention and guessed.
3. The opposing coach played softball in college and I believe that she has a firm grasp of the rules. If she does, in fact, understand the rules, then why did she clearly encourage illegal base running and risk getting called out?