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Any thoughts on Cagle’s drop? Guessing it is a peel? Looks like she finishes it like an uppercut.
Valerie Cagle Drop
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With drop balls, the question is, "How much IR does a pitcher use when throwing the pitch?"
A "pure" peel drop would use no IR. Since all high level pitchers use IR, you won't find any pitcher throwing a "pure" peel drop.
With Cagle throws a drop ball, she pulls the ball around the circle, just like any other pitch. Her hand finishes with her palm toward 1st base. So, she is using some IR of the forearm for the pitch. I would say she is probably using 25% IR with this pitch.
Kind of a quibble, but Cagle's drop balls are too low in the zone. She is throwing 70+ mph., so it doesn't matter much.
A "pure" peel drop would use no IR. Since all high level pitchers use IR, you won't find any pitcher throwing a "pure" peel drop.
With Cagle throws a drop ball, she pulls the ball around the circle, just like any other pitch. Her hand finishes with her palm toward 1st base. So, she is using some IR of the forearm for the pitch. I would say she is probably using 25% IR with this pitch.
Kind of a quibble, but Cagle's drop balls are too low in the zone. She is throwing 70+ mph., so it doesn't matter much.
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It's a peel drop. Sluggers has his own opinion on this but if you start with a 4 seam grip and you get 4 seam rotation how can it be anything other than a 'peel' drop?
When I hear/read "peel drop" I think of these videos on YouTube. So I don't like to use it when describing drop-ball mechanics. I know, it's old but still.... I'm assuming the term is still used for lack of better when trying to describe how the ball comes off the fingers. Or to differentiate from a turn-over.
DD's PC uses the term "firing with the fingers", which is what I've come to use when talking to other pitchers/parents and working with DD at home.
DD's PC uses the term "firing with the fingers", which is what I've come to use when talking to other pitchers/parents and working with DD at home.
Huh? How does grip determine the pitch? Are you saying if she used the exact same mechanics but used a 2 seam grip it would be something else?
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Worst video on throwing a drop ball ever...
Right. But that’s what pops up into my head when I hear “peel drop”. Hillhouse in a video demonstrates the same motion when describing a peel (among other variations).
The video is pretty bad. But is one of the first results when searching peel drop. So that’s a bummer.
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