Standing on First still awarded two bases.

[CoachJD]

So if a throw goes out of play untouched it's two bases from the time the throw left the fielders hand but if there's contact with the glove before it goes out of play it's one base from the time of contact?

No. An overthrow can hit something (a glove, a player, a base, etc) and it's still a 2-base award. A throw glancing off a glove, like in RAD's play, is a 2-base award. The only question (and I'm not 100% clear on it still) is where was the runner when the ball was thrown, as that's how you determine where she ends up.

The 1 base award requires possession, such as a player losing control on a tag attempt.

 

[RADcatchers]

Asked earlier...will ask again

What are people considering possession of the ball?

Ball goes in the glove but becomes lost.
What determines possession?
A time frame? Seconds...tic tic tic?
Or
Once the ball is in the glove,
that means it's in the glove
=possession.
> even if it's just for a split micro moment...?...!


Definitely have seen this called differently!


(As to my original post.
There is no way the batter Runner would have reached first before the throw started the play at 3rd.)

 

[dogpatch]

NFHS 8-4-3e

 

[CoachJD]

Asked earlier...will ask again

What are people considering possession of the ball?

Always best to go to the rules book for this (using NFHS for this).

The rule regarding the overthrow just says "possession," so you need to look elsewhere.

Here's the definition of "Catch" (2-9):

SECTION 9 CATCH
ART. 1 . . . A catch is the act of a fielder who, with her hand(s) and/or glove/mitt, securely gains
possession of a batted, pitched or thrown ball.
ART. 2 . . . In establishing the validity of the catch, the fielder must prove she has control of the
ball and that her release of the ball is voluntary and intentional.
ART. 3 . . . If the fielder has made the catch but drops the ball either in transferring it to the
throwing hand or in making a throw, the ball shall be ruled caught.
ART. 4 . . . For a legal catch, a fielder must catch and have secure possession of the ball before
stepping, touching or falling into a dead-ball area. A fielder who falls over or through the fence
after making a catch shall be credited with the catch. A fielder who catches a ball while
contacting or stepping on a collapsible fence, which is not completely horizontal, is credited with
a catch.
ART. 5 . . . A catch shall not be credited if:
a. A fielder catches a batted, pitched or thrown ball with anything other than her hand(s) or
glove/mitt in its proper place.
b. Immediately following a catch, the fielder collides with another player, umpire or fence or
falls to the ground and fails to maintain possession of the ball.
c. The fielder uses any equipment or part of her uniform that is displaced from its proper
position.
d. An entire foot is touching dead-ball territory at the time of the catch.
e. The ball strikes anything or anyone other than a defensive player while it is in flight. In
this case the ball is ruled a ground ball.
f. The fielder traps the ball. A batted fly ball or line drive is considered trapped if it hits the
ground or a fence on a short hop before being caught. A thrown ball is considered trapped if
it is on the ground and the glove/mitt or hand is over it, and the player does not have control.
A pitched ball is considered trapped if it is a strike but touches the ground on a short hop
before being caught by the catcher.
ART. 6 . . . A ball prevented from hitting the ground by a player's equipment (providing it is in its
proper place) or body shall not be ruled caught until the ball is securely held in the player's
hand(s) or glove/mitt.