We were indeed. In general I felt the umps did well and the tourney was on time and fields in good shape. I heard some griping about the umps, but I suppose that's always going to happen if princess doesn't get on base every time.
Rule Question - First base
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We were indeed. In general I felt the umps did well and the tourney was on time and fields in good shape. I heard some griping about the umps, but I suppose that's always going to happen if princess doesn't get on base every time.
Pretty sure I was the head coach of the team you were playing when the running lane interference call was made against you. Obviously y’all have a very good team and your head coach is one I respect. We enjoy playing you (it makes us better even though we haven’t managed a W against you other than way back in Fall 2020). I was surprised by the reaction to the call from your assistant coaches and parents. It was pretty cut and dry that the batter runner has to be called out. Looking at the video the umpires might have been wrong to move the player who started at 1B back to 1B. The rule (for PGF tournaments NFHS rules are used) is the runners are returned to the last base touched at the time of the interference. The runner looks to have touched second a split second before the throw hit the batter runner preventing our 1B from receiving it. That said, it’s only in slow motion and with repeated looks that I can tell so one that I would tend not to get upset about. Congrats on a very good team for your daughter- whichever player she is she must be a heck of a baller to play with that team, and also on a very good second day of tournament play this last weekend.
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Thank you.
Yeah, our parents get riled up a bit more than I'd prefer, but I'm a very laid back guy and just like to let the umps do their jobs. It was a close game, and your lead-off hitter came close to 3HRs (that would have changed the outcome).
- Apr 19, 2023
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The batter must be in the running lane after they reach haflway to firstbase. Interference is called and the batter is out and all runners return to the base they were on when the ball was put into play.
- May 29, 2015
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Careful there ... I didn't go back and re-read the whole thread, so we may have covered this already, but ...
... In NFHS, NCAA, and USA the runner is not out unless they run outside the lane AND interfere with the fielder taking the throw. Interference does not happen if the runner is simply hit by the the throw.
USSSA uses a little different language which could result in an out call for being hit by the throw. I'll leave it to somebody who regularly calls USSSA to let us know if they actually call it that way when nobody else does.
... In NFHS, NCAA, and USA the runner is not out unless they run outside the lane AND interfere with the fielder taking the throw. Interference does not happen if the runner is simply hit by the the throw.
USSSA uses a little different language which could result in an out call for being hit by the throw. I'll leave it to somebody who regularly calls USSSA to let us know if they actually call it that way when nobody else does.
A lot of coaches teach their kids to run in fair territory, at least up until the start of the runners lane, on bunts or dropped third strikes. Does anything change if the runner is hit by the ball before the start of the runners lane? What is the thinking on having them run in fair territory, knowing that the batter is likely going to be called out if hit by the thrown ball?
- Aug 10, 2023
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Out is the correct call, it is a tough one. I am bookmarking this for Peter's response. this is how an opposijng coach should communicate with respect and understanding with professionalism. i like it a lot. that alone makes this thread a win.
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Again, a batter-runner is not out because they are hit by the throw. They are called out for running outside the lane AND interfering with the fielder making the catch. Being hit by the throw is not an automatic out. Just saying …
As for the logic, @sstasik , another ticky-tacky way to “gain an advantage.”
As for the logic, @sstasik , another ticky-tacky way to “gain an advantage.”
Can you give me a case play (or even just make up a scenario) where a runner is out of the lane and a throw hitting her doesn't interfere with the fielder taking the throw?
Does this mean a very bad throw should not be considered interference? Practically, how does that language actually mean something that would not result in an interference call every time?
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