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Maintaining prober elbow separation?
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8-9 years old.
Manny is doing a style, hands at the back shoulder or even and perhaps slightly ahead of the back shoulder. Including the bat position. Also, this is an inside pitch where the hands get in front of the back shoulder.
It is different then Freeman’s hands being behind the back shoulder.
Here is Manny with the hands a little farther back and not so much bat wrap.
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Since we are talking bat drag and using the arms to swing. Place a rubber ball between the arms and the body. I’ll show you tomorrow. Therefor the hands will do the work.
This helps maintain the box and feeds the problem by keeping tension between the elbows/arms.
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You can even find exercise bands where you can create a stretch between the arms/elbows.
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Just curious of why you are trying to "Keep the elbows separate"? Is there a specific issue you are trying to correct by doing that?
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What you will get from many of these members is that drills don't work, and only specific work will work. I get it, but it isn't helpful for someone like you just trying to learn. Sure some drills are harmful, but one mans junk is another mans treasure.
In any case, i like eFastballs simple comments of keeping rear forearm flat and hands at armpit. That is something you can easily watch for during any hitting, doesn't need drill work to watch for. Many of hitters issues are starting the swing before toe touch and the hitters hands are dropping and the barrel is flattening. DBSF - drop barrel swing flat driven mainly because of early hand/arm/barrel movement, doesn't allow the swing to be leveraged.
That being said. I like the Reverse Top Hand Drill. Simple and effective. combines the top hand only and bottom hand only drills. The hitter can't swing without keeping the top hand in front of the back elbow. Do not grip with the thumb. See picture below. Open top hand, just inverted. I cannot find the actual video i like, it was a high school baseball coach working with a kid showing this drill. But the grip is the important part. Just use with tee work and front toss. See how you like it and change as needed.
Here is a link from an older post but still relevant IMO.
https://www.discussfastpitch.com/posts/204645
This is what I mean when I say MLB hitter's hands stay relatively close to their armpit until hip slot (upper arm is vertical).
If the hands go:
1. back - that's bat drag (version 2 of bat drag is where hands start at armpit and elbow goes way forward)
2. forward to pitcher- that's pushing/arms/hands to ball/extension (this is every swing down clip)
3. way out toward plate - that's casting
I have revealed too much in this thread. There's $10,000 worth of lessons here.
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I didn’t forget about showing the rubber ball. I was busy all day, give me a second.
Here’s the ball that takes the arms out of the swing.
