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Jul 13, 2014
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Runner on third, batter walks. Catcher throws ball back to pitcher as batter runs to first. Once runner touches first, LBR in effect; BR continues to second. Pitcher holds the ball, staring at runner on third, not making any motion or attempt. While BR is running to second, runner on third remains stopped a few feet off third base (presumably waiting for pitcher to throw to second so she can run home). Does the LBR apply to runner on third while BR is running to second? Should she be immediately ruled out when she doesn't immediately go back to third or advance to home?
 
Jan 11, 2015
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You've got it right, but that's a lot going on for a two man crew. My money says most miss that.
Actually it's pretty easy to see as two people. Two runners and two umpires. Plate umpire looks at the lead runner and the base umpire watches the batter runner. As soon as the BR hits first you look see what the runner on 3rd is doing. See her standing off and not moving, easy out if she doesn't go anywhere.
 
Dec 11, 2010
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Agree with Strike3, does get missed a lot!

And remember, runner at three has to go back, it doesn’t say she has to hurry, lol
 
Oct 11, 2010
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IMO what causes the most confusion is what you know already, LBR does not take effect until batter-runner touches 1st. Everything falls into place after that.

If it is called? Nothing wrong with mentioning it to umpire to get them the 2nd time they do it.
 
Apr 20, 2015
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DD's coaches teach the 3B to yell LBR, she's out, when the runner stands off the base in this situation.
Thats obnoxious and could be considered unsportsmanlike and trying to show up an umpire resulting in a warning and or an ejection. I have never seen anything like that in high level softball and would suggest players leave umpiring to the umpires

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Strike2

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Nov 14, 2014
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Actually it's pretty easy to see as two people. Two runners and two umpires. Plate umpire looks at the lead runner and the base umpire watches the batter runner. As soon as the BR hits first you look see what the runner on 3rd is doing. See her standing off and not moving, easy out if she doesn't go anywhere.

IF the plate umpire is disciplined, maybe. Eyes tend to go where the action is.
 
Aug 17, 2019
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Thats obnoxious and could be considered unsportsmanlike and trying to show up an umpire resulting in a warning and or an ejection. I have never seen anything like that in high level softball and would suggest players leave umpiring to the umpires

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unsportsmanlike? BS. showing up an umpire? How about helping out an umpire? ejection would just be CYA move. This team plays against some of the highest level teams, Corona Angels Tyson, Batbusters Stith, SoCal A's Richardson, so it's not some local team.
 

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