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Jun 8, 2016
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Oh, the "poor me, I chose to sacrifice money to work in education". Cry me a river. I know a lot of educators who make damn good money, and many of them still seem to think they are oppressed. It's laughable. But back to the subject at hand, the parent was speaking for the player. I am sure that if the player didn't care we would not have seen this post.
Not crying a river. Only pointing out that if I thought money was the end all be all I would have chosen to work in the private sector..that is it.

You along with about 10 others on here get their panties in a wad whenever I say anything so there is no point in discussing anything with you. Enjoy your day.
 
Jul 5, 2016
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Oh, the "poor me, I chose to sacrifice money to work in education". Cry me a river. I know a lot of educators who make damn good money, and many of them still seem to think they are oppressed. It's laughable. But back to the subject at hand, the parent was speaking for the player. I am sure that if the player didn't care we would not have seen this post.
The player may well have been upset, but in my experience, it is the parents who get more exercised about slights and perceived slights against their future Jocelyn Alo or Montana Fouts.

I am pretty sure that we have participation trophies these days to keep the parents satisfied. From a pretty early age, I think the kids figure out that participation trophies are a joke.
 

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The player may well have been upset, but in my experience, it is the parents who get more exercised about slights and perceived slights against their future Jocelyn Alo or Montana Fouts.

I am pretty sure that we have participation trophies these days to keep the parents satisfied. From a pretty early age, I think the kids figure out that participation trophies are a joke.
We are not talking about participation trophies here, and it doesn't matter if parents are more upset than players. It still does matter to the players and the selections should be done fairly. It's the borderline players who care the most, not the stars who are always being honored, and they should get the honors they earn. Why are people arguing against this? It makes no sense. If no one cares, as some of you think, then why do they exist?
 
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Dec 2, 2013
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I am pretty sure that we have participation trophies these days to keep the parents satisfied. From a pretty early age, I think the kids figure out that participation trophies are a joke.
The last Softball Trophy my DD won was for a 14U local tourney in 8th grade. Hasn't won anything since. Once she hit HS (16U) it turned into big girl ball. Her teams started playing in bigger more competitive events against Nationally Ranked teams. When they get 13th place in a field of 85 teams, there are no awards. But they are happy they beat some great teams. This season their college team beat ETBU who was a top 5 ranked team at the time. That was very exciting for them, then two games later lost 17-0! They laughed, they cried.
 
Jun 8, 2016
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The problem is not that you comment. This whole group is designed for the exchange of opinions and ideas. I guess you just have a problem with people disagreeing with you. Maybe you should re-evaluate your thinking on the subject when 10 people disagree with you. Apparently it's you with your panties in a bunch. And I doubt that you would be more successful in the private sector.
I have no problem with anybody disagreeing. I already stated that the players can care if they want to (my initial post was a bit of hyperbole..) but parents shouldn't make a big deal out of it. The stuff I was talking about was confrontational crap like this:

Oh, the "poor me, I chose to sacrifice money to work in education". Cry me a river. I know a lot of educators who make damn good money, and many of them still seem to think they are oppressed. It's laughable.

What was the point of that unless you have a problem with me in general? All I stated was that I took a job in academia which most know pays less than private sector jobs in Engineering.
 
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I have no problem with anybody disagreeing. I already stated that the players can care if they want to (my initial post was a bit of hyperbole..) but parents shouldn't make a big deal out of it. The stuff I was talking about was confrontational crap like this:



What was the point of that?
I was responding to your off topic reference to how you "sacrificed" your ability to earn money in the private sector. It had nothing to do with the subject and I've heard it too many times from educators who make really good money, and very few could make more in the private sector, despite what they might think. If you just stuck to the subject instead of injecting this BS I wouldn't have responded in that way.
 
Jun 8, 2016
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I was responding to your off topic reference to how you "sacrificed" your ability to earn money in the private sector. It had nothing to do with the subject and I've heard it too many times from educators who make really good money, and very few could make more in the private sector, despite what they might think. If you just stuck to the subject instead of injecting this BS I wouldn't have responded in that way.
You stated money isn't everything, I responded with a statement which got your panties in a wad.

As far as not being able to make more money in the private sector, I have students that barely pass my class making more than me for their first job (100K) which is fine, good for them. Just don't tell me I wouldn't make more money in the private sector.
 
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And if you knew anything about the private sector, you would know that passing your class probably has little to do with the ability to make money.
Agreed, but for their first job out of school (which is what I was talking about) how they do in school matters a decent amount.
 
Dec 15, 2021
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My DD's college conference has a first team then an honorable mention team...22 players selected for the first team, and 16 selected for honorable mention.....i think it was designed to eliminate issues like the OP mentions. There is a mix of positions chosen, which allows for 3 short stops if all are deserving. It fluctuates year to year, and i don't believe it takes away from anyone as usually the top 20 kids in a conference are all interchangeable.

I think as important as stats are, its also a respect paid to maybe the most feared hitter on a team or in the conference as well....if someone has a #3 hitter that no one in the conference ever wants to pitch to in any important situation, and she hits .350 as a short stop, but there is another short stop that hits in the 5 or 6 hole that bats .390, you may lean towards the first kid if defense is equal.
 

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