How would travel ball change "If pitchers were put on a pitch count"?

pattar said:

I meant you were talking about travel baseball but just said baseball..

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Either way doesn't really matter because there are probably still more travel ball softball teams at the Young Youth Level than there are baseball teams in Little League.

Especially being that softball is a year-round sport here. And baseball Little League just ain't.

@RADcatcher

I have very little doubt that you do an excellent job and. I’m sure your heart is big.

Yet your perspective is that of “Paid Softball Instructor”.

Yeah, you are “not the same as good old Uncle Tony”. I get that.

And yet the instructors, org heads, tournament directors and college coaches all live in a mighty symbiotic ecosystem.

Gotta feed the beast. And the beast is being fed. For now.

That’s the bubble. And the bubble shows signs of breaking.

The decline in the men’s game resulted from lack of pitching. It’s beginning to happen with the women’s game. If that isn’t fixed, it’s predictable that the same will happen to the women’s game.

That’s the point.

RADcatcher said:

Either way doesn't really matter because there are probably still more travel ball softball teams at the Young Youth Level than there are baseball teams in Little League.

Especially being that softball is a year-round sport here. And baseball Little League just ain't.

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To your original point, there is already a big disparity in levels in youth/amateur baseball..not sure where you read (on here) that there wasn't.

Westwind said:

@RADcatcher

I have very little doubt that you do an excellent job and. I’m sure your heart is big.

Yet your perspective is that of “Paid Softball Instructor”.

Yeah, you are “not the same as good old Uncle Tony”. I get that.

And yet the instructors, org heads, tournament directors and college coaches all live in a mighty symbiotic ecosystem.

Gotta feed the beast. And the beast is being fed. For now.

Thats the bubble. And the bubble shows signs of breaking.

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Everyone is part of the bubble.
The bubble morphs, flexes and changes


It is inclusive of a lot more diversities of people now. And people have a lot of different goals. Which is absolutely fine. Some people take responsibility for their own actions and others don't... it's all included in the bubble!

The bottom line is it still a choice.

For the most part baseball and softball (in the US) have become sports played by the middle class . Why that is probably multi-faceted and would probably make an interesting dissertation study in a Social Sciences department.

Diversity?????

I will quote my favorite line from “The Wire”: “Sheeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit”!

Not many underprivileged kids have a snowballs chance in hell in softball.

And you can thank those wonderful tournament directors and their $1,200 entry fees for that.

RADcatcher said:

Have never ever heard a coach say
'Please dont work on developing skills (like pitching) on your own'

*No demand is already there

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'Please dont work on developing skills (like pitching) on your own' is exactly what coaches do with actions not words.
The current system discourages coaches from being able to develop pitching.

It's a good topic to think about how softball could change especially if we're talking about how it could change to make it better.

However we already know that just because there is opportunity doesn't make people step up to being better at it. Some people just step to the opportunity and pay for whatever. What people want to do with her money is definitely not the same as what people want to do what their effort. And maybe that is where some of this has gotten Lost in Translation that just because can pay money for something doesn't mean getting quality out of it or putting quality into it.

you guys should just get a room

Westwind said:

Diversity?????

LOLx100 there Sister!

Not many underprivileged kids have a snowballs chance in hell in softball.

And you can thank those wonderful tournament directors and their $1,200 entry fees for that.

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That is certainly part of it, and maybe a large part of it. Another part that baseball/softball are skill sports that require lots of reps to get good and those reps require more than a single person for the most part. In today's society most kids don't go out and play ball with their friends so how do you get those reps? In most cases this requires a parent to be involved (paying for lessons, going to the cage/field to work, etc) and if a parent is having a hard time putting food on the table, working on their kid's ball skills is probably pretty low on their list of priorities.