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Jan 22, 2011
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I saw online a post saying folks having been posting cruel things about the catcher. The post also says the catcher gunned down the runner at second immediately after the end of this video who she glanced at during the video.
 
Feb 15, 2017
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It's tough to tell from the video but it does appear she's more than three feet from her established base path when the catcher attempts to tag her.

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May 20, 2015
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It's tough to tell from the video but it does appear she's more than three feet from her established base path when the catcher attempts to tag her.

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ha i made that post earlier on the original viral video thread......looks like runner was mid batters box on the tag attempt......appears she is a bit beyond the end of the box and past the plate on the avoidance.......the box should extend 3.5' past the center of the plate, so it looks like from this angle beyond 3' might be the case
 
Feb 13, 2021
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The question is this, and I am not sure about the answer, so will be calling the rules interpreter on Monday. Does the established basepath extend indefinitely past the base/plate or just 3 feet? In other words does she have only 3 feet side to side but more than that for an over-run/overslide? Will post what I find out
 
Feb 15, 2017
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The base path goes wherever the runner goes until an attempt at a tag is made, and it is a direct bath to the base from where the runner is. When rounding first a runner could run to the right center fence if they like, but as soon as an attempted tag is made, the base bath becomes a straight line from where they are directly to the base.



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May 29, 2015
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The question is this, and I am not sure about the answer, so will be calling the rules interpreter on Monday. Does the established basepath extend indefinitely past the base/plate or just 3 feet? In other words does she have only 3 feet side to side but more than that for an over-run/overslide? Will post what I find out

AS @Gtrips07 said, the line extends from the runner to the base. The base path extends three feet to each side in a straight line between the runner and the base. (Not three feet past the base.) Keep in mind, your runner is not a one-inch stripe, so you have three feet on either side of her.

What I've never seen guidance on is: does that mean any portion of the runner's body or does it have to be the whole body? In my opinion, I need to see her whole body outside of that lane.

Whether she left the three-foot wide lane when she dodged the initial tag is going to be a judgement call. In my judgement, I don't think she did. I couldn't provide a valid argument against somebody who judged she did, though.

Once she evaded that tag, the base path resets to a straight line between the runner and the base WHEN THE NEXT TAG ATTEMPT occurs, wherever the runner may be (even if she is past home plate, behind home plate, or on the field side of home plate).

Forgive my rudimentary skills ... but illustrations of the ever-changing base path. NOTE: A tag is NOT being attempted in all of these.

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Feb 13, 2021
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MIB, yes I know when the basepath is established, the question I will have for the interpreter is this: If a runner goes BEYOND the base in a continuing play (think overslide at 2B) does the path end at 3 feet past the bag and going further is out of the path, or does it continue an indefinite length past. In the video in the OP the runner goes off to the side so not really applicable here. As for your other point, my instructors have always said any part of the body staying in the path qualifies, so a slide very wide is ok if the hand stay within the 3 feet.

If the fielder continues with a tag attempt i.e. follows the runner with the glove, then I feel the basepath does NOT reset, it is still a continuing play on the runner. Now, when the C looked away THAT ended the play and would reset the basepath.
 

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Nov 14, 2014
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Amusing and ridiculous at the same time. Does anyone know what the actual call was?

I don't know how anyone could reasonably call that anything but "out".
 

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