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This is the video that started the seam shifted wakes research. It was the first use of a high definition camera in Yankee Stadium. The spin on the ball should make it break up and to the right but it breaks down and away.

 
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Or this version
Does baseball have a pitch that ends up higher at the batter than the release point of the pitcher?

Quirky question deserves quirky response...
For your friend of course 🥳
Darren O’Day throws a pitch he calls the Jenny Finch. I think it fits your description 🙂. (He throws submarine)
 
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Yep. I was referring to the OPs question about his DDs natural mechanics, not Cat Osterman.

But to answer your question:

Michael Jordan’s height and 45” vertical leap are natural advantages.

Greg Louganis has 77% more fast twitch muscle than the average person.

Michael Phelps has a 6’7” wingspan, the torso of a man 4 inches taller, and the legs of a man 8 inches shorter.

Like these other elite athletes, Cat Osterman has a natural ability that others don’t have. In her case she can spin a softball unlike others. Not sure what to attribute it to (Long fingers? Manual dexterity?). But whatever it is she has more of it than anyone else, ever.
I'm not disputing what you're saying, I guess I just misread it or didn't understand initially.

Yes, Cat has extremely big hands which have helped. And as good as she is, I believe she could've thrown considerably harder is he loaded her legs a little more. But, hey, she did ok without it. LOL. The other advantage Cat had over others is, she didn't have to relearn how to pitch. At young ages she was not taught H/E mechanics so, when she got to Bobby Smith (the guy she credits with teaching her how to actually pitch, not just mechanics. But pitch and spin) he didn't have to go backwards in order to go forwards with her. That is huge! Bobby was a world class pitcher himself and still pitches today in the over 60 divisions. So not starting with the H/E mechanics meant she had a pretty seamless transition to learning how to make pitches move. I cannot emphasis enough how important that was for her.

Knowing Cat like I do, I think she'd have been good at anything if she wanted. Especially anything requiring dexterity. Maybe her hands/fingers would've made her the next Mozart if she wanted. Her work ethic was better than most.
 

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I'm not disputing what you're saying, I guess I just misread it or didn't understand initially.

Yes, Cat has extremely big hands which have helped. And as good as she is, I believe she could've thrown considerably harder is he loaded her legs a little more. But, hey, she did ok without it. LOL. The other advantage Cat had over others is, she didn't have to relearn how to pitch. At young ages she was not taught H/E mechanics so, when she got to Bobby Smith (the guy she credits with teaching her how to actually pitch, not just mechanics. But pitch and spin) he didn't have to go backwards in order to go forwards with her. That is huge! Bobby was a world class pitcher himself and still pitches today in the over 60 divisions. So not starting with the H/E mechanics meant she had a pretty seamless transition to learning how to make pitches move. I cannot emphasis enough how important that was for her.

Knowing Cat like I do, I think she'd have been good at anything if she wanted. Especially anything requiring dexterity. Maybe her hands/fingers would've made her the next Mozart if she wanted. Her work ethic was better than most.
Debi Doom is perhaps the most un-athletic looking or moving player have ever seen pitch/play...
And yet still
incredibly impressive
 
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Debi Doom is perhaps the most un-athletic looking or moving player have ever seen pitch/play...
And yet still
incredibly impressive
She was also over 6" tall..that helps and cannot be taught. Some people have a genetic advantage..that's life.
 

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She was also over 6" tall..that helps and cannot be taught.
Hmmm does it help?
Lonnngggeeerrr time to figure out body?
With awkwardly lengthy type of height?
Or the tall lean that elbows and knee's poke out
Cant put weight on.
Mehhh imo its not always helpful.

Would not say just cuz someone is over 6 foot they will be a better athlete.
Actually had a roommate in college
who was 6'11"
Yep
She was like a giant new born giraffe...
She was on the basketball teams bench...
one season.
 
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Hmmm does it help?
Lonnngggeeerrr time to figure out body?
With awkwardly lengthy type of height?
Or the tall lean that elbows and knee's poke out
Cant put weight on.
Mehhh imo its not always helpful.
On average pitchers are the tallest players on the field at the highest level..I guess that is one huge coincidence..
 
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