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Apr 1, 2017
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I've done GC for all 5 seasons of our team. Haven't had 1 time where a parent asked/complained about my scoring. Maybe they just keep it behind my back..... The players on the other hand are quick to ask about whether their at bat was scored a hit or error.
 

Josh Greer

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Jul 31, 2013
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I'm telling you guys, best thing to do if you run GC is to ask people around you to help make the calls. Fine the people who know the game well, and say things like:

"Error on 3b, right?"

"Single, advancing to second on error, right?"


Then either others hear the confirmation and back off before they even know to object, or you can say "I asked others for help on that call and that's what they said".

I'm going to say that "your mileage may vary" using that method. It should be noted that I originally started videoing games way back in 2011-2012 for the sole purpose of electronic scoring after the game. Too many parents offered too many "suggestions" during the game.
Dad: "You scored that a double, right?" Me (in my head) "How do I explain to dad that 2nd based tripped on his shoestrings trying to get to the little dribbler up the middle. Then shanked it to right field trying to throw to first." Me (out loud) "Well, it was close and I'm probably harder on the kids to help make them better, but: E4, advance to second on throwing error." [insert harsh sailor response here]
 
Oct 4, 2018
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I'm going to say that "your mileage may vary" using that method. It should be noted that I originally started videoing games way back in 2011-2012 for the sole purpose of electronic scoring after the game. Too many parents offered too many "suggestions" during the game.
Dad: "You scored that a double, right?" Me (in my head) "How do I explain to dad that 2nd based tripped on his shoestrings trying to get to the little dribbler up the middle. Then shanked it to right field trying to throw to first." Me (out loud) "Well, it was close and I'm probably harder on the kids to help make them better, but: E4, advance to second on throwing error." [insert harsh sailor response here]

I hear ya.

I have a trusted few parents that know how to score a game. Those are the ones I ask.
 
Feb 12, 2014
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Not totally Gamechanger related but related to the post.

I know a former Assistant HS coach whose daughter played for him and he kept the team stats. She finished her career with the school RBI record (no comment on how legit that actually was). But, there was a Sophomore on the team who was very good and had a real shot to break the record by the end of her Senior year. Each year the staff handed out a packet at the end of the season with stats for the season, career stats, and team records.

Amazingly, this coach's daughter gained 10 or so career RBI the year after she graduated! A parent kept the packets from each year so he was caught red handed padding the stats of his daughter who was no longer on the team!!!!

That one takes the cake for me!
 
Jul 14, 2018
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Why not choose "Other" for both since that's the correct option based on the choices given?

Every time I have to resort to hitting ‘other’ I feel like I’ve failed in some way

A few years ago DD played on a team where the worst player’s parent did GC. I went back and looked a year later to see how DD had done one year vs the other. Lo and behold! Scorekeepers daughter actually led the team in hitting! I think she got on base once in 50 games.


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Jul 9, 2019
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This is the best thread ever.

I do GC from the 1st Base coaches box, because no one on the team knows how to do it correctly. There may be some disagreements whether something was an error or a hit, but I try to maintain proper information at all times. And for the record, my DD leads the team in ROE, some could easily be considered hits, but I don't want to pad her stats in any way. Also, the dreaded PB/WP conundrum!! :LOL:

Those seem to be the ones that parents come up to me and disagree with my assessments on. We don't keep GC for true stat purposes though. We do it to keep a basic idea of how everyone is doing. For instance, on that hard hit up the middle to the SS, whether it was a hit or an error just helps us remember that Player A hit a hard ground ball up the middle, etc.

Fun times with GC!!
 
Oct 4, 2018
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I've done GC for all 5 seasons of our team. Haven't had 1 time where a parent asked/complained about my scoring. Maybe they just keep it behind my back..... The players on the other hand are quick to ask about whether their at bat was scored a hit or error.

Oh, they are complaining. Nice that they do it in a way that doesn't get back to you.

I have a few parents come over and say "You gave her a hit, right?" every time. It's getting super annoying. I go on instinct, and my initial gut call. If the defender should have made the easy/medium play, it's an error. Sorry we can't have a team with everyone batting .700
 
Jun 19, 2016
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A lot of time the issue is simply the parent doesn't know how to score. I had to explain a fielders choice to one after I saw this scoring for an attempted double play.

"Single to Short Stop. Runner out advancing to 2nd".

I also had to explain the difference between a wild pitch and a passed ball after an 3 entire 10 AA baseball tournaments with no wild pitches. If you have ever watched 10AA baseball you know that is impossible.

In my DD'S younger days I used to see stuff like the famous bunt inside the ball park home run. Thankfully I haven't seen that one since the second season of 10U softball.

Sometimes I think Game Changer needs a different category of error called "total team brain fart". I have seen that in 12U. That should in automatic corrective conditioning at the next practice.
 
Jun 19, 2016
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I can honestly say the person who does game changer on my DD's team is definitely not biased towards his daughter. I sometimes have to remind him she not spiderman.
 

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