Notable changes over 20-minutes.

[Buttermaker]

Yup. But the intent for both are actions yield different reactions. KTB -The initial turn with the hands maintains control of the barrel. You haven’t committed yet. You have just loaded the barrel.

TTB- If you turn it from max tip, you have lost precious time to read the pitch longer and make better decisions. Not to mention control.

Look at these two.

https://twitter.com/hitterhaven/status/1114231663746142208?s=21

https://twitter.com/will_lucas3/status/1106977474607497217?s=21

Notice how Trout can cheat fastball and adjust.

Judge can only hit one speed at a time.

Trout gets to his launch position early and barrel is turned at launch. There are not 2 moves.

https://twitter.com/ChezWhizzz/status/1114754168890253312

Judge can only hit one speed at a time.

https://twitter.com/PDFStreaming/status/1114801609563725824

 

[Buttermaker]

An adjustment made without affecting the turning of the barrel, still has a sharp/tight turn. Rotational point created with the hands.

He gets to his launch position earlier than a lot of hitters. He carries that position to the ground if he has to. Barrel is turned at launch. He rarely rolls over and his barrel is never down through contact.

 

[FP26]

Yup. But the intent for both are actions yield different reactions. KTB -The initial turn with the hands maintains control of the barrel. You haven’t committed yet. You have just loaded the barrel.

TTB- If you turn it from max tip, you have lost precious time to read the pitch longer and make better decisions. Not to mention control.

Look at these two.

https://twitter.com/hitterhaven/status/1114231663746142208?s=21

https://twitter.com/will_lucas3/status/1106977474607497217?s=21

Notice how Trout can cheat fastball and adjust.

Judge can only hit one speed at a time.

Bold above... I read posts like this and can only think of two things. Either you really do not understand the concept of TTB, or you are intentionally misrepresenting it.

 

[Work=wins]

Bold above... I read posts like this and can only think of two things. Either you really do not understand the concept of TTB, or you are intentionally misrepresenting it.

Not sure what this means. TTB like ‘you’ say and others say are ‘different’ correct? We have already been over this FP. It’s not me not understanding. It’s others thinking that there is bat speed to be found behind the body for a longer ‘ faster’ route to the ball. That’s what Judge does. That’s the example I used. Do you condone it the way TM teaches it?? If so then you are incorrect, TTB is long and not adjustable. If not then there is no need to say a word.

 

[FP26]

Not sure what this means. TTB like ‘you’ say and others say are ‘different’ correct? We have already been over this FP. It’s not me not understanding. It’s others thinking that there is bat speed to be found behind the body for a longer ‘ faster’ route to the ball. That’s what Judge does. That’s the example I used. Do you condone it the way TM teaches it?? If so then you are incorrect, TTB is long and not adjustable. If not then there is no need to say a word.

Some of my views may be a little different than others, but the concept of TTB itself really isn't any different. The clip below explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/N0_RPmPlrxM

 

[Work=wins]

Trout gets to his launch position early and barrel is turned at launch. There are not 2 moves.

https://twitter.com/ChezWhizzz/status/1114754168890253312

Judge can only hit one speed at a time.

https://twitter.com/PDFStreaming/status/1114801609563725824

Look at the hands make adjustments.
https://youtu.be/v5lt2Nu7sV0

So Judge abandoned the no stride I see. Still striking out more then anyone in mlb history. Funny TM hates momentum. But finds out Judge needs it for power. The irony. Because his rear leg nonsense etc etc is crap. He still Ks 50% of the time. FYI it was a hanging pitch. A mistake. Those get recognized early and are easy to hit no matter how you swing it. Try again.

 

[Work=wins]

Some of my views may be a little different than others, but the concept of TTB itself really isn't any different. The clip below explains it pretty well.

https://youtu.be/N0_RPmPlrxM

https://twitter.com/playball/status/1087745014921416705?s=21

‘When I LOAD... I want my hands to travel’

the body should load the hands which loads or ‘turns’ the barrel. It’s not applying force rearward with the HANDS to load or ‘turn’ the barrel.

 

[Work=wins]

It about sequence. The hands are connected to the body which supplies the load for the hands to leverage the barrel.

Since TM doesn’t believe in sequence... he has to ‘manufacture’ bat speed which affects the adjustability. Paint it anyway you want. It’s wrong. Hey how is Happ and Kingery doing?

 

[FP26]

https://twitter.com/playball/status/1087745014921416705?s=21

‘When I LOAD... I want my hands to travel’

the body should load the hands which loads or ‘turns’ the barrel. It’s not applying force rearward with the HANDS to load or ‘turn’ the barrel.

Did you even watch the Antonelli video? When he is demonstrating TTB, what direction are his hands moving? They are moving towards the pitcher (sort of), but not because they are being pushed forward. They are being carried by what the body is doing. I have no issue with the concept of "connection" as long as it isn't overdone. Just like I am in favor of the concept of "TTB" as long as it isn't overdone. The hands are staying on the "right side of the body" creating a tight hand pivot point. That is what TTB is all about.

 

[Work=wins]

Did you even watch the Antonelli video? When he is demonstrating TTB, what direction are his hands moving? They are moving towards the pitcher (sort of), but not because they are being pushed forward. They are being carried by what the body is doing. I have no issue with the concept of "connection" as long as it isn't overdone. Just like I am in favor of the concept of "TTB" as long as it isn't overdone. The hands are staying on the "right side of the body" creating a tight hand pivot point. That is what TTB is all about.

In your mind it is. Majority here it is not. They want the TM TTB.

Nobody is saying we don’t want direction deep(TTB) But it’s the body pulling the hands forward. Not a bat flipped rearward. TTB is a reaction.

Question: do the hands come forward after the barrel is sent back? Wouldn’t that be hands to the ball(in laymens terms)???? Hmmm.

All Antonella did was say what he saw on video.. um so what. Yes we know speed is captured deep. By the body loading the hands and the hands coming forward and loading the barrel. It’s hands to ball. It’s not turn it behind or to the sky. Right? It’s a reaction.